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Technology Will Kill White-Collar Jobs

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Re: Technology Will Kill White-Collar Jobs

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Eventually technology should kill pretty much all of the jobs. Human time and energy should be spent on what they find interesting, not on mundane stuff such as farming, housing, construction, database plumbing - all of which could be easily automated. No human should have to work to pay bills because there should be no bills. That should be the promise of technology. Only jobs left for humans should be things that r…

> Universe has plenty of space True, but that might actually be the challenge. There's too much space out there. I live in California. Let's say the Sun is a soccer ball right here next to me. Then the Earth is a large grain of sand a few meters away. Jupiter is a marble a few blocks down the road. Speed of light is like an ant running. And the nearest star is another soccer ball way out in Greenland. Think about tha…

No, if we really wanted we could build an H-Bomb spaceship in a decade or two and fly to the nearest stars in a few decades.

Re: Technology Will Kill White-Collar Jobs

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If it were still up and running, I'd link you to regretsy.com for a primer on most people's level of creativity. But it's gone so now all I can say is that it showed the worst "user-generated stuff" people posted to Etsy. Not buying it - we have specialization and professionalization in part to maintain quality of work. Everyone cannot be, and should not be, an artist. Anyways, if no one had to work, most people woul…

Anyways, if no one had to work, most people would just do drugs. And when people do have to work, they just alternate between drugs that make them better workers, and drugs that let them forget work.

It seems like the basic blueprint of the human being, at every level, requires a certain amount of constant stress to function properly, an external challenge to the capabilities or even integrity of the system. At every level. Purely physical (motion), immunity, emotional level, intellectual level, etc.

Unless we change the blueprint in a massive way, we won't do well in a life of complete leisure.

Re: Technology Will Kill White-Collar Jobs

#34
post #17

Eventually technology should kill pretty much all of the jobs. Human time and energy should be spent on what they find interesting, not on mundane stuff such as farming, housing, construction, database plumbing - all of which could be easily automated. No human should have to work to pay bills because there should be no bills. That should be the promise of technology. Only jobs left for humans should be things that r…

> Universe has plenty of space True, but that might actually be the challenge. There's too much space out there. I live in California. Let's say the Sun is a soccer ball right here next to me. Then the Earth is a large grain of sand a few meters away. Jupiter is a marble a few blocks down the road. Speed of light is like an ant running. And the nearest star is another soccer ball way out in Greenland. Think about tha…

Or to accept that we'll have to settle for expanding throughout our own solar system, which has quite a lot of real estate (especially moons and asteroids). We might even manage some probes to nearby stars.

Re: Technology Will Kill White-Collar Jobs

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> Universe has plenty of space True, but that might actually be the challenge. There's too much space out there. I live in California. Let's say the Sun is a soccer ball right here next to me. Then the Earth is a large grain of sand a few meters away. Jupiter is a marble a few blocks down the road. Speed of light is like an ant running. And the nearest star is another soccer ball way out in Greenland. Think about tha…

No, if we really wanted we could build an H-Bomb spaceship in a decade or two and fly to the nearest stars in a few decades.

It takes forever to get there. We know of no habitable exoplanet yet, so when you do get there, you still live in a tin can in orbit.

I'm not saying we'll never make it. I'm saying the magnitude of the effort is enormous. In a sense, Sart Trek and Star Wars have done a disservice to space exploration by making it seem so easy.

The scales of energy, time, and complexity involved are colossal.

Re: Technology Will Kill White-Collar Jobs

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Eventually technology should kill pretty much all of the jobs. Human time and energy should be spent on what they find interesting, not on mundane stuff such as farming, housing, construction, database plumbing - all of which could be easily automated. No human should have to work to pay bills because there should be no bills. That should be the promise of technology. Only jobs left for humans should be things that r…

As great as this sounds (and I'm a full supporter of the idea), I don't think it's going to happen. Humans have what seems to be a somewhat innate desire to "work". If there aren't enough jobs, we'll just add eight more layers of management positions to fill the gaps. If an improvement in technology led to more free time, then we should already have vastly more of it than we did in the 1800s.

Re: Technology Will Kill White-Collar Jobs

#39
post #17

Eventually technology should kill pretty much all of the jobs. Human time and energy should be spent on what they find interesting, not on mundane stuff such as farming, housing, construction, database plumbing - all of which could be easily automated. No human should have to work to pay bills because there should be no bills. That should be the promise of technology. Only jobs left for humans should be things that r…

As great as this sounds (and I'm a full supporter of the idea), I don't think it's going to happen. Humans have what seems to be a somewhat innate desire to "work". If there aren't enough jobs, we'll just add eight more layers of management positions to fill the gaps. If an improvement in technology led to more free time, then we should already have vastly more of it than we did in the 1800s.

No one is proposing we stop people from working. Go ahead and be a farmer, you may not be efficient as the robofarmers, but that's OK you aren't going to have to sell the farm.

Re: Technology Will Kill White-Collar Jobs

#40
post #10

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Not sure that statement is true (I actually think it's almost the opposite). For example if programmers are replaced, who will create the programs for the machines? I imagine even after the first wave of robot overloads, they will want a version 2.0. If you are a web designer, your connection is through a computer. Not sure robots can be creative (not yet anyways) If you are a sales person, your connection will be th…

Yes, programmer will be the last job.

Programmer will be the last job, but most programming jobs will be a part of the first wave to go. I can't tell you how many days I've felt like my job (wire up this API by googling then massaging a code sample) was such an obviously mechanical process than the AI needed to do it was not significantly more advanced than where we are now. I do not expect most of these jobs to last another two decades (at least by then ageism will have pushed me out anyways).
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