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Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

#32

Sounds like the owner or the bank are just trying to generate some PR buzz and rip off someone not from the area with more money than sense. It's a few acres of prairie with some buildings that need to be torn down. I'm not up to date on land prices in western SD, but I can't imagine good pasture land is worth more than $2k/acre, even with the surge in beef prices recently. It's also worth noting that the Pine Ridge…

According to Google Maps, it's on the Pine Ridge Reservation. An outsider thinking he'd like to own a small town in the country might be in for a surprise. I went to high school on a different reservation in western South Dakota.

About the poverty: When I was in college in the mid-90s, I went on spring break work trips to the Rosebud reservation, and they cited a 90% adult male alcoholism rate.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

#33
post #17

What makes this a 'town' and not just a plot of land? I'm assuming there's zero infrastructure to be managed, so what's left?

In the Dakotas, the word 'town' is more of a colloquial term. The requirements to be a town are basically that you have one of the following operating: post office, bar, or church. Really, because its so sparsely populated, it may also refer to an area of many square miles around one of the aforementioned establishments (even if they are no longer operational). It's just easier to say "My farm is in Roseglen" than it is to say "My farm is 30 miles northwest of Garrison" (which would be the closest town with an actual government, and businesses). Everybody from the area knows where you're talking about, and it helps locals preserve a bit of identity.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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post #8

On one hand, this is a little land with a few building in unattractive location/condition. Not so queer. On the other… We are at a point in time when the wealthy are extremely wealthy. The billionaire club is substantial but even below that, personal wealth in the tens or hundreds of millions exists. What do people want to do with that wealth? It's more than can really be spent on comfort, entertainment, sex and such…

There are a few (at least in the "whatnot" category), but they think bigger than 1000-person towns, and it's often unpopular with the public: http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/09/01/under-new-management/ .

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Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

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On one hand, this is a little land with a few building in unattractive location/condition. Not so queer. On the other… We are at a point in time when the wealthy are extremely wealthy. The billionaire club is substantial but even below that, personal wealth in the tens or hundreds of millions exists. What do people want to do with that wealth? It's more than can really be spent on comfort, entertainment, sex and such…

I would argue that those experiments fall into three categories:

* Experiments that have been tried (like anarchism and some kinds of communalism) and don't need repeating

* Obviously terrible ideas (anarchism again, communism, some others)

* Beyond the ready scope of purely legal changes (feminism)

And this is even before you start addressing the problems of getting 1000 people going in an environment with meaningful infrastructure. Or having it function economically without being a gaping money pit.

I suspect smart and wealthy people interested in changing society tend to realize that there are more ways to break society than there are to improve society. Therefore, smaller changes that do not individually break society are preferable to changing everything at once and praying you didn't introduce a killer bug somewhere in your batch of a million changes.

As a result, you get more people like George Soros than you do Lenin. For which we may want to consider being thankful.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

#36

Sounds like the owner or the bank are just trying to generate some PR buzz and rip off someone not from the area with more money than sense. It's a few acres of prairie with some buildings that need to be torn down. I'm not up to date on land prices in western SD, but I can't imagine good pasture land is worth more than $2k/acre, even with the surge in beef prices recently. It's also worth noting that the Pine Ridge…

According to Google Maps, it's on the Pine Ridge Reservation. An outsider thinking he'd like to own a small town in the country might be in for a surprise. I went to high school on a different reservation in western South Dakota. About the poverty: When I was in college in the mid-90s, I went on spring break work trips to the Rosebud reservation, and they cited a 90% adult male alcoholism rate.

The alcoholism and poverty on Pine Ridge and Rosebud are no joke. I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community.

I volunteered with the Habitat chapter near there. They could not build on the res because any houses under construction would be stripped of their copper wire and plumbing before they could be completed. What they really need is a big employer to set up shop there: rising tide floating all boats, etc.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

#38

Sounds like the owner or the bank are just trying to generate some PR buzz and rip off someone not from the area with more money than sense. It's a few acres of prairie with some buildings that need to be torn down. I'm not up to date on land prices in western SD, but I can't imagine good pasture land is worth more than $2k/acre, even with the surge in beef prices recently. It's also worth noting that the Pine Ridge…

According to Google Maps, it's on the Pine Ridge Reservation. An outsider thinking he'd like to own a small town in the country might be in for a surprise. I went to high school on a different reservation in western South Dakota. About the poverty: When I was in college in the mid-90s, I went on spring break work trips to the Rosebud reservation, and they cited a 90% adult male alcoholism rate.

That's very believable. When I was there, every single morning I would see flatbed trucks hauling mangled cars down the road - presumably the cars were wrecked in a DUI accident the night before.

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

#39
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Google Maps, it's on the Pine Ridge Reservation. An outsider thinking he'd like to own a small town in the country might be in for a surprise. I went to high school on a different reservation in western South Dakota. About the poverty: When I was in college in the mid-90s, I went on spring break work trips to the Rosebud reservation, and they cited a 90% adult male alcoholism rate.

The alcoholism and poverty on Pine Ridge and Rosebud are no joke. I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community. I volunteered with the Habitat chapter near there. They could not build on the res because any houses under construction would be stripped of their copper wire and plumbing before they co…

"I think there's a genetic component and a cultural component that together almost guarantee it; both drivers are exacerbated by the insular nature of their community."

You want to explain that, particularly the genetic component?

Re: Abandoned South Dakota Town on Sale for $250k

#40

I think this is it: https://goo.gl/maps/HTZMUk4N2Pt

It's just a short drive to Wounded Knee; that would make it a convenient tourist stop all its own. "On your way to Wounded Knee, stop and stay at the haunted bed and breakfast in Swett!"

I would caution against using a massacre in advertising particularly while implying a haunting.
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