She gave a talk at Startup School 2013: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSEeFxq2X_c
She did indeed, I was there and she was not only intelligent and knowledgeable but probably the most endearing speaker on the day.
Google Picks Diane Greene to Expand Its Cloud Business
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#32I'm glad to hear that "the cloud" is becoming less likely to mean "the Amazon cloud". Monocultures are dangerous, and I doubt that any monoculture is quite as dangerous -- or at least as unexpected -- as a monoculture for providing distribution and resilience.
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#33I don't understand why the reporters hold Google in such high regard, particularly in the cloud business. Here is a statement from the article:
> "At the same time, analysts say, the company’s offerings in cloud development services — computing, storage, data analytics and others — are already comparable to Amazon’s."
AWS is far far ahead of GC and it is in no way comparable. Plus the ecosystem around AWS has evolved and is much more stable. There are a lot of articles explaining "how to fix X or how to do Y" with AWS than with GC.
I also don't think Google will ever have the level of customer obsession that Amazon has. Your account got hacked? No worries, AWS will waive the fee, but I honestly don't think Google will ever do that.
Google is a technology company and might outrun Amazon in terms of technical superiority, but I don't think they can simply outrun Amazon in cloud business.
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#34An easy area of improvement is documentation, samples etc. They are seriously lagging behind AWS and Azure. Becomes hard to choose Google because the cost of learning is higher.
I dunno, I've found aws documentation to be atrocious. For example, I've had a very hard time figuring out how to do things like reattaching ebs volumes to ec2 spot instances. Maybe it's because I don't use aws much, but I get frustrated and have a hard time understanding how simple tasks need to be so complex. I wonder how effective the Microsoft style API lockin strategy will be for aws. My personal guess is very e…
Yeah, AWS docs are really not very good in my limited experience. Google's docs have some pretty good parts, but they can be hard to find. Authentication is still kind of confusing on GCP.
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#35I don't understand why the reporters hold Google in such high regard, particularly in the cloud business. Here is a statement from the article: > "At the same time, analysts say, the company’s offerings in cloud development services — computing, storage, data analytics and others — are already comparable to Amazon’s." AWS is far far ahead of GC and it is in no way comparable. Plus the ecosystem around AWS has evolved…
In the ones they mentioned, GCE vs EC2, GCS vs S3, and BigQuery vs Redshift, they seem pretty comparable to me.
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Pricing is fine. Tech support is a joke. I wish I could pay more for Google to actually offer good support. We tried GCE for a while but it just didn't cut it in terms of mean response time to questions. AWS really leads on support.
We do have paid support tiers ( https://cloud.google.com/support/ ) with explicit time-to-response targets. Which were you using? Disclaimer: I work on GCE.
Well tbh we got answers but they usually were; nope not offered, cannot be fixed. 3 weeks later I met a Google engineer working with GCE at a party who fixed it for us the day after hearing about our issue, which means it probably was able to be fixed from the first time.
Re: Google Picks Diane Greene to Expand Its Cloud Business
#37I don't understand why the reporters hold Google in such high regard, particularly in the cloud business. Here is a statement from the article: > "At the same time, analysts say, the company’s offerings in cloud development services — computing, storage, data analytics and others — are already comparable to Amazon’s." AWS is far far ahead of GC and it is in no way comparable. Plus the ecosystem around AWS has evolved…
In the ones they mentioned, GCE vs EC2, GCS vs S3, and BigQuery vs Redshift, they seem pretty comparable to me.
But what about ECS? Lambda? Role Based Authentication? EBS snapshots?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the ones they mentioned, GCE vs EC2, GCS vs S3, and BigQuery vs Redshift, they seem pretty comparable to me.
But what about ECS? Lambda? Role Based Authentication? EBS snapshots?
GKE is miles ahead of ECS, and being based on Kubernetes is huge. We don't really have an equivalent to Lambda (yet?) but classic App Engine isn't actually too far off 'technology-wise' (pay per use, containerized, instant start).
Our lack of IAM is beyond painful. We're sorry. We're fixing it.
PD has had snapshots since Day 1; they're differential, fast and we even encourage people to use them for super-fast "rsync"!
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
But what about ECS? Lambda? Role Based Authentication? EBS snapshots?
GKE is miles ahead of ECS, and being based on Kubernetes is huge. We don't really have an equivalent to Lambda (yet?) but classic App Engine isn't actually too far off 'technology-wise' (pay per use, containerized, instant start). Our lack of IAM is beyond painful. We're sorry. We're fixing it. PD has had snapshots since Day 1; they're differential, fast and we even encourage people to use them for super-fast "rsync"…
Also I've found the network load balancer to be amazingly better than ELBs.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the ones they mentioned, GCE vs EC2, GCS vs S3, and BigQuery vs Redshift, they seem pretty comparable to me.
But what about ECS? Lambda? Role Based Authentication? EBS snapshots?
Reading this I just want them all to drop the incomprehensible acronyms.