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London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say liberal, do you mean liberal but still will not do gay marriages?

It doesn't make sense to call gay partnership a marriage. Marriage is a strictly defined cultural phenomenon meaning a relationship between a man and a woman with the original intention to continue the family by having kids.

Strictly defined by whom? It doesn't have that definition for me anyway.

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say liberal, do you mean liberal but still will not do gay marriages?

It doesn't make sense to call gay partnership a marriage. Marriage is a strictly defined cultural phenomenon meaning a relationship between a man and a woman with the original intention to continue the family by having kids.

I'm pretty sure "strictly defined cultural phenomenon" is an oxymoron.

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say liberal, do you mean liberal but still will not do gay marriages?

It doesn't make sense to call gay partnership a marriage. Marriage is a strictly defined cultural phenomenon meaning a relationship between a man and a woman with the original intention to continue the family by having kids.

Source? In the UK I'm pretty confident the definition of marriage isn't exclusive domain to heterosexual couples.

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't make sense to call gay partnership a marriage. Marriage is a strictly defined cultural phenomenon meaning a relationship between a man and a woman with the original intention to continue the family by having kids.

Strictly defined by whom? It doesn't have that definition for me anyway.

You can call computer a calculator since it does indeed 'calculate' stuff, but you'll be in a minority. Computer's got so much more than a simple calculator, same with marriages - it is much more for a man and woman in every country in the world.

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't make sense to call gay partnership a marriage. Marriage is a strictly defined cultural phenomenon meaning a relationship between a man and a woman with the original intention to continue the family by having kids.

Source? In the UK I'm pretty confident the definition of marriage isn't exclusive domain to heterosexual couples.

Cultural means that everywhere where there is a similar culture the things will mean the same to people.

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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This does seem worrying, particularly the private citizens being given some limited subset of police power, to issue fines and confiscate items. > The Garden Bridge Trust said the planning documents detailed theoretical maximum powers that were extremely unlikely to be used It might be intended that way, but realistially, it seems that the exercise of power is invariably pushed to the theoretical maximum (and often b…

> particularly the private citizens being given some limited subset of police power What is more worrying to me is when the police have more powers than the citizenry. Recognising the right of free citizens to enforce the law is a-okay in my book, although of course that's not quite what England's doing.

> What is more worrying to me is when the police have more powers than the citizenry.

> Recognising the right of free citizens to enforce the law is a-okay in my book, although of course that's not quite what England's doing.

You make a good point. I'm generally in favor of the idea of "citizens arrest" and the like. But in this particular instance, the asymmetry is concerning.

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't make sense to call gay partnership a marriage. Marriage is a strictly defined cultural phenomenon meaning a relationship between a man and a woman with the original intention to continue the family by having kids.

I'm pretty sure "strictly defined cultural phenomenon" is an oxymoron.

Is it a better way to use different terms for when people get together to have kids and continue the family and when they just 'want' each other?

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say liberal, do you mean liberal but still will not do gay marriages?

It doesn't make sense to call gay partnership a marriage. Marriage is a strictly defined cultural phenomenon meaning a relationship between a man and a woman with the original intention to continue the family by having kids.

It's a good thing language and society are fluid despite being held back by people who are unchanging in opinion or operate on religious zeal.

The function and intention of marriage has changed through time and locality.

To pick a singular aspect of a complex social construct and use that to base its purpose and definition on is myopic.

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strictly defined by whom? It doesn't have that definition for me anyway.

You can call computer a calculator since it does indeed 'calculate' stuff, but you'll be in a minority. Computer's got so much more than a simple calculator, same with marriages - it is much more for a man and woman in every country in the world.

We're not talking about "every country in the world" though. We're talking about England, where your definition has not applied since 2013.

Re: London garden bridge users to have mobile phone signals tracked

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure "strictly defined cultural phenomenon" is an oxymoron.

Is it a better way to use different terms for when people get together to have kids and continue the family and when they just 'want' each other?

So if someone is infertile then their marriage doesn't count in your eyes either?
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