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Didi Kuaidi: Uber's Enemy in China

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Re: Didi Kuaidi: Uber's Enemy in China

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The article talks about subsidies. Does anyone know how much Uber and friends are subsidising their rides? As in if I pay on average 10 USD to Uber, then the driver gets what? 5 USD, 10 USD, 15 USD?

Uber drivers get paid an amount based on a subsidy multiplier of the ride value, and they are highly sensitive to these multipliers. According to a driver I talked with recently, Uber takes 20% of the fare, but is currently giving drivers a bonus of about 2.5x. So if a fare is 10 rmb, Uber takes 2 rmb, then pays out 8 * 2.5 = 20rmb. Driving costs these drivers roughly 1-2 rmb/km, and if the subsidy ever fell below 1.…

The hack needed an extra rooted android phone and a special 'helper' app. It also took advantage of the subsidy they give new users and the driver for new users. (I have no idea if this has been patched)

Another subsidy I heard about gave about $1000 per week if you had over 80 rides. $4000 dollar subsidy a month goes a long way in China.

It really blows my mind that people think this is a sustainable business. Even after you out-spend the competition, who's stopping someone from downloading a new app from a new service? I've seen users in China blast all ride apps at once and just take the first one to arrive. Subsidies won't buy loyalty.

Re: Didi Kuaidi: Uber's Enemy in China

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Note when I say black cab, I actually mean 黑车 whose direct English translation probably isn't very precise. Essentially, these are illegal taxis that would have wandered the streets looking for fares when they can get away with it. They don't mean a legal black livery car as in say...NYC. Gypsy cabs?

No, just random migrants and rural residents with cars coming to the city to make a buck.

It's just called that for historic reasons[1], referring to any illegal cab, usually which solicits people for rides. They don't have to be of the Romani people.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_taxicab_operation#cite...

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