No thanks, I'll pass. I adore Star Trek, but this ain't it. It's just action crap dressed up in Star Trek's clothes. Which is a shame because too much of Sci-Fi on television and in the theater is just action, we need more thoughtful and interesting science fiction, the sort of stuff that made Star Trek a cult hit and transformed it into a cultural phenomenon despite running for less than three seasons originally.
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#32Produced by Alex Kurtzman who was also the producer of Michael Bay's Transformers , Star Trek remakes which are basically the lowest common denominator action movies, and Scorpion the series about incredibly incorrect portrayal of hacking and hackers. This is going to be action schlock, a series like TNG will never be made again. I don't want too sound too depressing, just letting you know to adjust your expectations…
To be fair, some of the movie issues could be a question of the influence of the other "Bad Robot" collaborators. I've come to the decision to never pay to watch anything ever again that Damon Lindelof has been given the last writing pass on, for instance. Certainly, it seemed to be JJ Abrams pushing the heavy action "Wish-It-Were-Star-Wars" schlock of the films and on the flipside it sounded like Kurtzman was the on…
After watching Prometheus, DL is right there with Uwe Boll on my list of people to avoid.
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#33If only we could have Bryan Fuller as show-runner, with Mads Mikkelsen as Captain.
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Yeah this isn't going to be about the core of what Star Trek is about: Humanistic ideas, science, and exploration. > a series like TNG will never be made again I have higher hopes than ever actually. With Netflix creating their own TV shows, crowdfunding booming, as well as cheap alternative movie and CGI studios popping up worldwide, we might some day see something even better than TNG. Edit: I mean, look at Stargat…
I loved Stargate Universe! It was just getting really good when the series was cancelled. :(
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I'll be the contrarian optimist: Star Trek movies are, on average, bad. Compare Star Trek: Nemesis to an episode of TNG - it's guilty of everything you attribute to the new Star Trek movies. The only reason it got a pass was because of the goodwill that the TNG show garnered for its characters. So I choose to believe/hope that a TV show isn't doomed to have the same outlook as the movie. I expect I may well be wrong,…
Insurrection was the closest film to a TV episode.
With the exception of Riker steering the Enterprise with that hidden Gravis Blackhawk joystick, it was very much like a feature length episode of the TV series.
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I loved Stargate Universe! It was just getting really good when the series was cancelled. :(
Did you ever read the virtual third season? https://empeopled.com/p/31640 Was a fairly descent wrap up if you're looking for some closure.
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#38It would probably be a bit different -- I don't know where he would take it -- but there would likely be interesting characters and character development.
As it is, I want something that returns to the kind of quality I found in the middle and later seasons of TNG, once it really caught its stride.
I also thought some of the Voyager episodes were quite engaging, particularly those involving Seven of Nine and some of the other... "trans"-human characters.
Star Trek, whatever series, has always been particularly good when it comes to exploring what it means to be... "sentient", to choose a word perhaps less open to misinterpretation that "human", though I would choose to define "human" as something other than our specific species. And characters at the boundary of "human" (I guess that is the word that really speaks to me) have often been very interesting and effective vehicles in this regard.
P.S. Perhaps it is in part that some of the other series became more interesting to me when some of the TNG writers migrated to them. I don't or no longer know the series timelines (in this world, as television shows) sufficiently to consider this more closely, off the cuff.
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Insurrection was the closest film to a TV episode.
Insurrection is my favorite of the Star Trek films and I hadn't thought of it that way before but I think you nailed it. With the exception of Riker steering the Enterprise with that hidden Gravis Blackhawk joystick, it was very much like a feature length episode of the TV series.
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#40I am only somewhat familiar with Star Trek (mostly by way of TNG), but I think it would be cool to see a conflict with a re-imagined version of the Ferengi. I never heard any exposition on the details, but the Federation is supposedly an essentially egalitarian post-scarcity economy with a religion of space exploration. In contrast, the Ferengi always seemed much closer to our own society: they are cold blooded capit…
I think it's star trek canon that the Ferengi never had any internal problems with slavery (of other Ferengi) or genocide. I think it would be much more interesting to explore the creepier side of this supposedly egalitarian post-scarcity economy... I mean think of how wierd it is that a military organization is in charge of scientific exploration, that all the individuals on the starship are tracked at all times, et…
don't we already do that on our spaceships?