a UK conservative magasine against an EU action, so surprising. To them, even if EU cured cancer it would still be wrong. Why do we see so many links of this website here actually? Like most UK people they hate the EU, and they are only part of it for subversion.
The EU’s new internet rules will hurt the continent’s startups
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. The Parliament had written a version without loopholes. The Council then modified it, and said "If you don’t add these loopholes, we’ll veto it and all future variants of it". As the council is representatives of the governments of the nations, complain to your government, not to the EU.
Where can we see these two version of the legislation?
You can view the whole procedure on the EPs website:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/popups/ficheprocedure.do?...
Re: The EU’s new internet rules will hurt the continent’s startups
#33oh EU, you had me at "internet rules".
Re: The EU’s new internet rules will hurt the continent’s startups
#34'Internet' and 'rules' in the same sentence is a contradiction in terms. The web was not designed for the kind of draconian oversight you see in the EU and elsewhere. Anything that resembles some form of rigidity will be made less rigid and force startups to 'think differently' and more fluid. It's a form of present shock (as Rushkoff has coined) which people are not used to that you see in bustling Shoreditch and other tech melting pots. You actually have people who look like The Internet in those places with USB flash drives as necklaces...
Re: The EU’s new internet rules will hurt the continent’s startups
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. The Parliament had written a version without loopholes. The Council then modified it, and said "If you don’t add these loopholes, we’ll veto it and all future variants of it". As the council is representatives of the governments of the nations, complain to your government, not to the EU.
What exactly can my government (country population < 2 million) do when german telekom bribes their way through the council?
Expose that corruption. Evidence, proof, sound recordings, and so on.
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#36I've been saying that Net Neutrality was a bad idea from day 1. Nobody would listen. There you go. Regulation is always a bad thing.
"Regulation is always a bad thing."
I know, right? I long for the days in which companies could dump whatever sludge they wanted in the water, and where meatpackers could let the rats roam free over the half rotted meat they were going to grind into sausage.
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#37With "special services" insufficiently defined, this opens up a lot of possibilities. Just today, Deutsche Telekom announced that
"According to our [Deutsche Telekom] ideas, they [startups] pay for it as part of a revenue sharing of a few percent. That would be a fair contribution for the use of infrastructure."
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10472765
With "video conferencing, online gaming, telemedicine automated traffic control and self-steering cars up to integrated production processes in the industry" as examples of users needing to pay, this goes a lot further than what has always been argued for by the commission.
Re: The EU’s new internet rules will hurt the continent’s startups
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. The Parliament had written a version without loopholes. The Council then modified it, and said "If you don’t add these loopholes, we’ll veto it and all future variants of it". As the council is representatives of the governments of the nations, complain to your government, not to the EU.
What exactly can my government (country population < 2 million) do when german telekom bribes their way through the council?
Well, push for the council to be replaced with a democratically elected representation?
Only issue: that would mean each EU country would transfer its full sovereignty to the EU. The UK especially dislikes this.