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Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

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Re: Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

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Seems pretty inefficient to fly things, because the energy needed to keep it floating in air. Although history tells us never to say never about technology, it seems like having small autonomous robots on wheels. They could travel on the sidewalks in cities, and also go the fastest way straight thru forest (for the many who live outside of cities).

You could say the same thing about aeroplanes.

Re: Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

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They won't. They're an absurd impracticality anywhere outside of Silicon Valley (suburban homes, no weather ever), and completely unnecessary even in those ideal conditions. People are excited because they're cool toys, not because it actually solves a problem.

Indeed. Even ignoring the total impracticality of them, you can also look at just energy issues. In order for drones to be cost effective, they need to stay in the air for minimum the full trip out and back from the home, but if you look at the location of most big warehouses (e.g. Amazon, Walmart) they're built outside of big cities for cost reasons, so now you have to fly twice as far to deliver packages onto the o…

> but if you look at the location of most big warehouses (e.g. Amazon, Walmart) they're built outside of big cities for cost reasons, so now you have to fly twice as far to deliver packages onto the opposite side of the city.

90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Walmart. If they were able to launch drones from their store locations it might address this concern.

Re: Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

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I'm ok with quiet, unmanned, self-driving delivery trucks that automate the package delivery process. I am not looking forward to delivery drones buzzing around overhead becoming a normal occurrence.

They won't. They're an absurd impracticality anywhere outside of Silicon Valley (suburban homes, no weather ever), and completely unnecessary even in those ideal conditions. People are excited because they're cool toys, not because it actually solves a problem.

"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value." -- Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre. 1911

"Anyone who fights, even with the most modern weapons, against an enemy who dominates the air, is like a primitive warrior who stands against modern forces, with the same limitations and the same chance of success." -- Field Marshal Erwin Rommel

Re: Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

#36

I'm curious because every battery operated "drone" I've seen has a pretty limited range and flight time. Some of the higher-end multicopters built for videography can carry a decent camera for maybe a half hour but it seems like for deliveries, you'd be really limited in terms of weight carried and distance. The thing still has to get back to the warehouse even if it manages to land, drop the package, and fly back wi…

Just remember that there are a lot of economic factors pushing batteries to be cheaper and smaller. Elon Musk may actually make drones economically viable, thanks to Tesla's need for the exact same thing- cheap, dense energy storage.

Re: Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't. They're an absurd impracticality anywhere outside of Silicon Valley (suburban homes, no weather ever), and completely unnecessary even in those ideal conditions. People are excited because they're cool toys, not because it actually solves a problem.

Indeed. Even ignoring the total impracticality of them, you can also look at just energy issues. In order for drones to be cost effective, they need to stay in the air for minimum the full trip out and back from the home, but if you look at the location of most big warehouses (e.g. Amazon, Walmart) they're built outside of big cities for cost reasons, so now you have to fly twice as far to deliver packages onto the o…

but if you look at the location of most big warehouses (e.g. Amazon, Walmart) they're built outside of big cities for cost reasons, so now you have to fly twice as far to deliver packages onto the opposite side of the city

Big warehouses are dependent upon current transportation technology (trucks and big cargo ships). If drones become feasible, there's no reason we couldn't move to decentralized (retail-scale) warehousing serviced by drones.

Re: Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

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According to the article, walmart wants to test a drone delivering a package from a truck and then returning to the truck. If that is the case, then they could use an automated truck to deliver packages to the general area first. Then the drone would activate and deliver the package the last few feet to the door. Presumably, if they did something like this the drones would have their batteries charged while the truck…

In the various combinations, I wonder if there's a place for a mini-autonomous van, too small for a person, but can carry a few packages. The main truck stops regularly along a main road, and releases a few of these tiny vans. The last few feet to the door (tricky to navigate, usually require a "off-road" person) are by drone, as here.

Wow, that could work. A self driving van. Of course, the drone would charge from van.

How about the optimization: as the van is slowing down or looking for a parking spot the drone takes off. Van begins unparking as the drone gets near.

Or in cities, the drone could take the subway.

Re: Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

#39
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They could also use cannons and shells with parachute for delivery in Silicon Valley area. Well, looks like I missed another startup opportunity...

I'd certainly be willing to put up with a few broken windows in exchange for the novelty of having my books arrive via field artillery.

Re: Wal-Mart seeks to test drones for home delivery

#40

I'm ok with quiet, unmanned, self-driving delivery trucks that automate the package delivery process. I am not looking forward to delivery drones buzzing around overhead becoming a normal occurrence.

I don't know - removing trucks from the roads sounds great to me. In theory wouldn't it be better to have less on the ground and more in the air? Since we exist on the ground and there's a lot more we can do with ground space.

This assumes the drones would be sufficiently high enough that it wouldn't feel like a bunch of bees buzzing around overhead. Not true today, but eventually...

Granted, I wouldn't want the sky filled with them either even if they were perfectly quiet and efficient and safe. I feel like there could be a reasonable balance though.

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