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Re: Facebook Reactions

#31

Post by Swizec » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:09 PM UTC

amyjess wrote: post #21

camillomiller wrote: post #2

People wanted a dislike button, got a series of redundant emoticons with very little space for actual disagreement. Which is actually good, because it won't transform Facebook into a mess of flames and negativity. Wait, maybe it's already too late for that...

Well, the purpose of Reactions isn't to "provide a dislike button" like a lot of people wanted. The purpose of reactions is to provide an alternative for people who don't want to click "Like" on stories of tragedy (e.g. someone's loved one dying, someone announcing they have cancer, or even something non-personal like a news article about a mass shooting) because it sounds inappropriate, like "ha ha, I'm enjoying you…

> "ha ha, I'm enjoying your tragedy!"

That's not the semantics of the Like button however. The Like button's semantics, as used by most people, are "I have read your post, don't have anything meaningful to add, and agree with you and/or express my post-appropriate social action but do not feel affected enough or close enough to you on the social graph to leave a comment."

The meaning of a Like is extremely contextual. And most people know this.

Granted, a lot of newbie users get confused.

Re: Facebook Reactions

#32

Post by orbifold » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:09 PM UTC

I wonder if one of the new options simply gets adopted as "dislike" by convention, maybe Yay would be a good candidate.

Re: Facebook Reactions

#33

Post by kzhahou » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:10 PM UTC

I've really enjoyed being able to congratulate friends on the birth of their children or their birthdays, with just one click. Super excited to be able to send one-click condolences now!

Re: Facebook Reactions

#34

Post by austenallred » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:11 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #10

Anyone remember YouTube Reactions? Died because no one used them. Hell, even BuzzFeed , the pioneer of reaction culture, implemented Reactions but are slowly depreciating them.

They worked well on Path and Slack

Re: Facebook Reactions

#35

Post by Nadya » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:11 PM UTC

orbifold wrote: post #32

I wonder if one of the new options simply gets adopted as "dislike" by convention, maybe Yay would be a good candidate.

"Angry" will probably fit "dislike"...

Re: Facebook Reactions

#36

Post by arasmussen » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:12 PM UTC

orbifold wrote: post #32

I wonder if one of the new options simply gets adopted as "dislike" by convention, maybe Yay would be a good candidate.

Why would Yay get adopted as "dislike"? Something like angry or sad would make way more sense. It'd be incredibly hard to create this culture in 1.4B people when the UI indicates otherwise. Perhaps among younger audiences? I'm still very skeptical.

Re: Facebook Reactions

#37

Post by onedev » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:12 PM UTC

kzhahou wrote: post #30

alexhaar wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair -- the hat tip should probably go to Path.

No. Slack has innovated literally every advancement in chat for the last 20 years.

Agreed. They don't get enough credit to be honest.

Re: Facebook Reactions

#38

Post by Sven7 » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:12 PM UTC

worldofsofte wrote: post #22

Innovation by some of the world's better engineers.

I have just been reading the front page Reddit thread, where soldiers are talking about the pointlessness of the Afghan War (can't believe its been 14 years) and the difficulty of coming back home and dealing with first world problems.

And then I see this Facebook stuff at the top of all the tech news...sigh...how did we get here? I have no idea.

Re: Facebook Reactions

#39

Post by shitloadofbooks » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:13 PM UTC

Shish2k wrote: post #27

feider wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should it not be possible simply by clicking?

Imagine you're at an automated restaurant. There are buttons for "order fries", "order cake", "order sandwich", and "do not order pie". Can you see why the last button in that list is not as useful as the first three? Positive sentiment needs no explanation because it inherits the context of the thing it is agreeing with; negative sentiment needs explanation else it is somewhere between useless and nonsense.

I don't have enough karma to downvote you, so I'm replying to you to tell you that everything you posted is a load of hogwash and your analogy is bad.

Of course negative sentiment also "inherits the context of the thing it is (dis)agreeing with."

You glean just as much information from someone clicking Like and leaving no context as you do someone clicking Dislike and leaving no context.

Re: Facebook Reactions

#40

Post by Cthulhu_ » Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 10:15 PM UTC

feider wrote: post #13

Shish2k wrote: post #8

For disagreement, write a comment explaining /why/ you disagree. (It's similar to HN's policy* of "prefer discussion to downvotes") * EDIT: I mean culture; as in I've seen it mentioned a lot by users of the site, though it's not in the rules

Why should it not be possible simply by clicking?

Because there's criticism and constructive criticism; the one is easy, impersonal (in the form of downvotes or dislike buttons), and completely useless because it just goes "I don't like this" - or, in relatable terms, a Linus-ism of "This code is shit".

Instead, both the criticism-giver and the receiver are better off if you went "This code is shit, /because/ so-and so, and you can improve it in this-and-that way".

Of course, a "I like this /because/" is also more constructive than a "I like this". But I'm sure there's been plenty of examples that no matter how many "I like this"-es you get, it only takes one "this sucks, you suck" to demotivate someone.