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Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by michaelmior » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 1:16 PM UTC

maximedev wrote: post #11

michaelmior wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you mean rent them from a US company?

No, they are French, based in France.

I understand that they are based in Europe. This was a grammatical question since the parent used the phrase "rent them to an US cloud company."

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by guiporto » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 1:22 PM UTC

Paulods wrote: post #21

Interesting. You should look into providing servers in Japan. Heroku won't and it's a big issue here in Tokyo.

Same for Brazil

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by jmnicolas » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 1:24 PM UTC

michaelmior wrote: post #8

jmnicolas wrote: post #2

Looks interesting for Europeans that don't want their servers accessed / seized by the FBI, but they should clarify if they own the servers or rent them to an US cloud company (Amazon / MS etc). On their data-center page they just show a map with their 2 data-centers (both are in France, they might use OVH).

I assume you mean rent them from a US company?

You're perfectly right I should have written "from". I can't edit the sentence anymore though.

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by mark_l_watson » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 2:29 PM UTC

I like to use PaaS so it is good to see competition. It looks like a 512MB instance is about half way between Heroku hobby and professional plans: $7 to $18 to $25 per month.

The Heroku hobby plan, which is what I use, lacks the easy horizontal scaling.

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by mark_l_watson » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 2:36 PM UTC

hellofunk wrote: post #7

This is very nice to see another contender in the PaaS arena, one that also uses the mechanisms Heroku put in place. What really remains to be seen, however, is the reliability of the service. Our production app has been on Heroku for over a year now and we've had very little issue with things, and there is certainly a lot that can go wrong in a complex environment.

Good point. I have different reliability requirements, I think, from most developers. Since I like to travel a lot, my measurement for reliability is how secure I feel that my apps will stay running on server reboots or equipment failure/replacement.

I consider most VPS vendors to be reliable in the sense that as long as /etc/roc.local, or a modern equivalent, starts all services on reboot. But, I feel more secure with a PaaS provider who I trust. For now I am using Azure for VPS (Bizspark participant) and Heroku and Bluemix for PaaS.

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by tylerflint » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 3:33 PM UTC

How do you keep containers isolated?

Do you just run multiple docker containers from different apps on the same host?

Do you provide any sort of network isolation between apps?

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by _Soulou » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 4:04 PM UTC

tylerflint wrote: post #36

How do you keep containers isolated? Do you just run multiple docker containers from different apps on the same host? Do you provide any sort of network isolation between apps?

Currently, we are running multiple containers from different apps on the same host. These containers are running with unprivileged users and reduced capabilities but in the same network. It will probably change in the future for a higher level of isolation.

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by vidarh » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 4:53 PM UTC

_Soulou wrote: post #30

fermigier wrote: post #23

Is "Leo Unbekandt" the real name of your CTO, or a pseudonym ?

I think it's my real name, proof underneath :-) http://i.imgur.com/onAPdMr.jpg

Any interesting story behind the surname?

(Might be worth explaining why it sounds made up/like a pseudonym: Unbekannt in German means unknown; similar variations has the same meaning in a range of Germanic languages)

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by wichert » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 5:54 PM UTC

yannski wrote: post #27

Paulods wrote: post #21

Interesting. You should look into providing servers in Japan. Heroku won't and it's a big issue here in Tokyo.

We'll have a new location in Singapore in the coming weeks/months. But if I understand well, it's not enough for japanese users?

A Singapore location would be incredibly useful for me. Is there some way to get a notice when that becomes available?

Re: Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Post by helloiamaperson » Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 6:04 PM UTC

Paulods wrote: post #21

Interesting. You should look into providing servers in Japan. Heroku won't and it's a big issue here in Tokyo.

I'd love to hear more about your use case and what I could do to improve the situation. You can contact me with the email address in my profile if you're interested. Thanks!