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DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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Re: DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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Proud father comment here. Last year my son's school had a DARE essay writing contest. Knowing that I favor legalizing drugs he showed me his submission before turning it in. I should note we had a good conversation about why I think drug use is a very bad idea and the reasons why. His English teacher (8th grade) gave him 100 out of 100. The following is his submission: D.A.R.E. is a program designed to keep kids fro…

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Re: DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's...uncool. most people grow out of drug experimentation naturally and never look back. you might have actually fucked that person's life up, compared to if you had done nothing. that's no solution, that's just plain mean.

Tongue in cheek solution. No one should do this. The fireworks enveloped us all.

I want to say something in my defense but I think it'll just make it worse. Hook, line and sinker.

Re: DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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I think Randy Marsh from "South Park" had the most effective anti-marijuana speech I've ever heard: Stan: I've been told a lot of things about pot, but I've come to find out a lot of those things aren't true! So I don't know what to believe! Randy: Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but… well, son, pot makes you feel fine with b…

I almost want to login to my non-throwaway/hellbanned account just to laugh at this notion. The times I've been most curious. Most engrossed in a piece of new tech has been when I'm high. Some night, I will go home from a 9-10 hour work day and get high to relax and make dinner and then go to bed... but will wind up reading about the latest and greatest in container tech, or whatever. The notion that pot makes you di…

I think that what you may be experiencing is a heightened sense of concentration toward a passion of yours that you were passionate about before you smoked pot.

However, think about children who smoke pot from an early age and don't develop the kind of curiosity that I'm sure proceeded the pot smoking you're talking about. Did you first discover your passions while you were young, impressionable, and smoking pot? Or did that come afterward, after all the initial experimentation and learning about yourself had already occurred?

I think the following quote from a NYC high school teacher better explains what I'm trying to get at:

“I hate pot. I hate it even more than hard drugs. I’ve taught high school for 25 years and I hate what marijuana does to my students. It goes beyond missing homework assignments. My students become less curious when they start smoking pot. I’ve seen it time and time again. People say pot makes you more creative, but from what I’ve seen, it narrows my students’ minds until they only reference the world in relation to the drug. They’ll say things like: “I went to the beach and got so high,” or “I went to a concert and got so high.” They start choosing their friends based on the drug. I hate when people say that it’s just experimenting. Because from what I’ve seen, it’s when my students stop experimenting.”[0]

[0] http://www.humansofnewyork.com/post/129574836736/i-hate-pot-...

Re: DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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post #23

I think Randy Marsh from "South Park" had the most effective anti-marijuana speech I've ever heard: Stan: I've been told a lot of things about pot, but I've come to find out a lot of those things aren't true! So I don't know what to believe! Randy: Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but… well, son, pot makes you feel fine with b…

Seriously, the only things that have ever made me think a second time about drugs are the honest descriptions of it, not the "I did drugs and now I have no teeth" kinda descriptions, but the ones that go, "When you're on meth, meth feels great! Everything is amazing, you feel like you can do so much, but when you're off it everything seems boring! So you go back for more, and eventually you're addicted." kinda descri…

Or, just do drugs. I mean, LSD is great, and people should try it. Smoking pot is also nice, I've done some great writing while stoned. Heck, Paul Erdos did amphetamines his whole life. Why are we trying to convince everyone not to do drugs again?

Re: DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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I think Randy Marsh from "South Park" had the most effective anti-marijuana speech I've ever heard: Stan: I've been told a lot of things about pot, but I've come to find out a lot of those things aren't true! So I don't know what to believe! Randy: Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but… well, son, pot makes you feel fine with b…

I almost want to login to my non-throwaway/hellbanned account just to laugh at this notion. The times I've been most curious. Most engrossed in a piece of new tech has been when I'm high. Some night, I will go home from a 9-10 hour work day and get high to relax and make dinner and then go to bed... but will wind up reading about the latest and greatest in container tech, or whatever. The notion that pot makes you di…

Everyone reacts differently to different substances, etc etc, but perhaps what you're describing is a little different from chronic, every-day smoking? Smoking pot occasionally can make anything more fun, but over time it seems like it would desensitize you to novelty.

Your mileage may vary of course. I've met some brilliant and highly successful people who smoke every day to no ill effect.

Re: DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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I think Randy Marsh from "South Park" had the most effective anti-marijuana speech I've ever heard: Stan: I've been told a lot of things about pot, but I've come to find out a lot of those things aren't true! So I don't know what to believe! Randy: Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but… well, son, pot makes you feel fine with b…

I almost want to login to my non-throwaway/hellbanned account just to laugh at this notion. The times I've been most curious. Most engrossed in a piece of new tech has been when I'm high. Some night, I will go home from a 9-10 hour work day and get high to relax and make dinner and then go to bed... but will wind up reading about the latest and greatest in container tech, or whatever. The notion that pot makes you di…

And for me, every time I smoke pot I become absolutely useless. Anything more difficult than watching whatever the hell happens to be on TV is nigh on impossible for me. And I don't normally watch TV! Anecdotes are fun.

Re: DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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I think Randy Marsh from "South Park" had the most effective anti-marijuana speech I've ever heard: Stan: I've been told a lot of things about pot, but I've come to find out a lot of those things aren't true! So I don't know what to believe! Randy: Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but… well, son, pot makes you feel fine with b…

> pot makes you feel fine with being bored The problem with that is that it's also super not backed up by data.

Anecdote, data, yadda yadda. This is precisely why pot has a very infrequent place in my life. In my misspent youth, I came to the same realization: when I was smoking weed frequently, I had no problem just doing nothing with my life.

Edit: on the flip side, I have come up with some really cool solutions to problems after having a bit. But it'll never be a frequent thing for me again, precisely because of the probability of just getting back to the "OK with not doing anything" state.

Re: DARE: The Anti-Drug Program That Never Actually Worked

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post #18

I remember DARE. A message delivered to us by people we didn't respect. A police officer that no one trusted and videos of teens we perceived to be losers telling us that drugs were bad. The program seemed to focus on social pressure not to do drugs, but social pressure is meaningless and ineffective when it's coming from somewhere beneath you. It had the effect of making my peers want to get high to distinguish them…

It is very stupid to scare youth with health consequences. For young people, the world "health" means nothing. It's very blank.

It means a lot for senior demographics, and so they happily push measures involving scaring young people with health problems. Which then won't work.

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