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Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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> If you buy something from the App Store, we do know what you bought from the App Store, obviously. We think customers are fine with that. Users should also be able to install apps on their iPhones without Apple knowing what they're doing. Personal computing devices shouldn't have artificial walled gardens. But I agree with him on everything else and think he's a hero for what he's doing.

From: http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-downl... "Apple has changed its policy regarding permissions required to build and run apps on devices. Until now, Apple required users to pay $99/year to become a member of Apple’s Developer Program in order to run code on physical iPhone and iPads. As part of the new Developer Program, this is no longer required. Apps can be tested on devices, no purchase…

Does it let you install binary apps or do you have to compile from source? Do they still have to be signed? Who verifies the signature?

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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>Personal computing devices shouldn't have artificial walled gardens. I couldn't agree more with this sentiment. Requiring that all software on your device be signed by a single entity (i.e. apple) is horrifying when you think about where that might lead to in the future.

And where is that? Like he said, any back door for the good guys is a back door for the bad guys as well.

back door for the good guys? you mean being able to execute unsigned code?

If apple is ever compelled by the government to not allow a certain app (if they lose in the FISA courts) or if the leadership of apple changes? Stories like this could be just the beginning: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/30/apple-remo...

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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>Personal computing devices shouldn't have artificial walled gardens. I couldn't agree more with this sentiment. Requiring that all software on your device be signed by a single entity (i.e. apple) is horrifying when you think about where that might lead to in the future.

And where is that? Like he said, any back door for the good guys is a back door for the bad guys as well.

My Galaxy S3 let me flash whatever I wanted on it. Just had to reboot in a special mode and click a button agreeing to void my warranty. No back door required.

Why can't iPhones do the same (from a security perspective, I understand the business reasons)?

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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What's with apple and their super-privacy stance lately? First his letter, and now his interview. Not that I mind it, but I feel like they're expecting something bad to come out soon.

They did have a pretty bad incident not all that long ago with private celebrity photos being leaked.

Not Apple's fault: poor security on the celebs' accounts.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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Apple is essentially the only major US tech company that doesn't rely heavily on advertising income (and thus on online profiling to target ads effectively), and they've realized that this gives them a moral high horse from which to attack their competitors without actually having to change any of their own habits.

Apple has also failed in their own advertising efforts (iAd) and additionally failed to catch up in the software service business (almost all of the mass market services are monetized via advertising). Their privacy stance is the only move left to them.

I always saw iAd not as a money-maker, but as Apple's thoughts on what advertising should be. That is, it was their way to try to make ads less tacky for their devices — especially noticeable in the initial million-dollar ad sales to high profile brands.

The messaging was all about how slick and polished and pretty they were, and how expensive.

Unfortunately Apple failed to realise banner ads are tacky no matter how much polish you throw at them.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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> Who the heck wants their own government spying on them? A depressingly large proportion of the population.

I believe it's more of an education problem, than of people actually welcoming the intrusions.

Most people don't know of any intrusions. I couldn't even tell you if my government has ever intruded on me, and to assume they do is a bit too much paranoia for my day-to-day life.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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> If you buy something from the App Store, we do know what you bought from the App Store, obviously. We think customers are fine with that. Users should also be able to install apps on their iPhones without Apple knowing what they're doing. Personal computing devices shouldn't have artificial walled gardens. But I agree with him on everything else and think he's a hero for what he's doing.

You have a misconception: any apple device is not a 'personal computing' one, but a 'corporate controlled' one. There goes your dilemma.

Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is a Fundamental Human Right'

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From: http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-downl... "Apple has changed its policy regarding permissions required to build and run apps on devices. Until now, Apple required users to pay $99/year to become a member of Apple’s Developer Program in order to run code on physical iPhone and iPads. As part of the new Developer Program, this is no longer required. Apps can be tested on devices, no purchase…

Does it let you install binary apps or do you have to compile from source? Do they still have to be signed? Who verifies the signature?

You have to compile an app using XCode and then it will automatically sign it with a certificate tied to your Apple ID.
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