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India Replaces China as Next Big Frontier for U.S. Tech Companies

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Re: India Replaces China as Next Big Frontier for U.S. Tech Companies

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post #22

As an American who up and moved to China on a whim and more recently started a tech company split between Boston and Shanghai, I can only greet this news with jubilation. Life here over the last two years has become simply impossible. Good luck to you China.

holy shit are we the same person? hit me up at Windows some time. Or wherever.

I'd be down to meet my doppelgänger., but if you want to meet at Window, we are not the same person. haha. How do I get ahold of you after my trip to the states?

Re: India Replaces China as Next Big Frontier for U.S. Tech Companies

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Free sounds good, but of course it isn't really "free", stuff is being built and the people who build it, and the people who makes the parts and so on, are all getting paid. You can't put a billion people online "for free". So who is paying? Obviously the people themselves, eventually. India would be wise to ensure the profits made by American companies are taxed in India. This is the mistake the EU made and why Goog…

That's the mistake that the EU made? Not taxing American companies enough? Instead of focusing on confiscating wealth from the successful, how about creating a climate where Europeans can create similarly successful businesses?

No, it was allowing companies to play country against country, e.g. the "double Irish" and the "Dutch sandwich"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement

Re: India Replaces China as Next Big Frontier for U.S. Tech Companies

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This is great.

Also, worth noting that tech is seemingly the one area of regulation / legislation that sees swift and decisive action in favor of the average Indian. But that's due to the sheer noise generated by the empowered digital Indian on such issues.

- Huge pushback on OTT regulation by TRAI (India's FCC) http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/social/trai-seek...

- Repeal of Section 66A http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-32029369 etc.

Re: India Replaces China as Next Big Frontier for U.S. Tech Companies

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As someone with a startup that operates in both India and China, I completely agree that India will be the next big thing. Both are messed up in their own ways. The difference is that in India, things are generally getting better. There are exceptions but the trend is moving towards a better internet ecosystem. China on the other hand is a case of how to F * things up. They modernized their tech backbone so quicky hu…

Cheers for the insight. How does the request for data on users differ between China and India? Am curious.

Re: India Replaces China as Next Big Frontier for U.S. Tech Companies

#35
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to share more details on how things have changed?

Not yet. Planning to write a small series of posts when I move back, but I do need some time out of this environment before I can judge things with less a biased mentality. Distance is great for that. Will post to HN when I do.

A post about the 2 year cat and mouse game of vpns and gfc is something I'd love to read.

Re: India Replaces China as Next Big Frontier for U.S. Tech Companies

#36
post #34

As someone with a startup that operates in both India and China, I completely agree that India will be the next big thing. Both are messed up in their own ways. The difference is that in India, things are generally getting better. There are exceptions but the trend is moving towards a better internet ecosystem. China on the other hand is a case of how to F * things up. They modernized their tech backbone so quicky hu…

Cheers for the insight. How does the request for data on users differ between China and India? Am curious.

There really isn't that much difference in the substance of the requests which was not what I expected.

It's more the frequency and how the requests are delivered that is different

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post #4

This is great, but I do have some concerns: - The support for Modi's "Digital India" by Facebook looks like a rebranded Internet.org, which will have serious implications on net neutrality in India, affecting not only the users but also Indian Internet startups. - Packaging FB/Google/Twitter services for free consumption is unlikely to encourage more content creation from the masses. - Our IT Act, often in conjunctio…

But the Supreme Court of India had squashed the section 66(A) of IT act which was misused to a great extent.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/what-was-section-66a-749154

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#38
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every expat in China I have met paid a few dollars a month for a VPN and had as much Facebook, Google, YouTube as the rest of us. Are you only referring to Great Firewall when you say that "life here is simply impossible"?

I have 4 (ExpressVPN, VyprVPN, StrongVPN, and a fourth I'll never tell anyone where it is). They do not reliably connect, are prone to attacks from the government and even when they do connect, you'll be throttled into oblivion. Before I discovered Shadowsocks (Chinese went to clouds house and made him remove it from github), my VPN would, within 3-5 minutes, be throttled to about 128k average speed. I would be elate…

How dare they try to stop people from breaking the law.

Re: India Replaces China as Next Big Frontier for U.S. Tech Companies

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Meanwhile in Kashmir, which is an "integral" part of India (apparently) — http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/kashmir/access-denied-kas...

I was curious so I googled. The ban was lifted. The ban was put into place because people were broadcasting provocative and violent videos showing torture and cutting throats of cows (sacred to Hindus in neighbouring Indian states). Eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzSBk6n1olU http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation...

This is a vague reason. Animal slaughter for food is a common practice world wide. Kashmir isn't the only place where this happens.

Edit — Infact, judging by the dress code, the video you've posted is from somewhere in South India (where internet was not banned)

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