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What is online pornography doing to sexual tastes and youngsters’ minds?

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Re: What is online pornography doing to sexual tastes and youngsters’ minds?

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Post by icebraining »

elorant wrote: post #23

From my point of view online porn looks boring because it objectifies women too much. It’s just so mechanical nowadays. Whenever I happen to view porn from the eighties it looked much more natural. But then again I guess back then porn actors where only a few dozen and they knew each other quite well so this allowed some kind of intimacy to grow between them. Now porn has become a commodity, there are thousands of ac…

That's why Amateur is one of the most popular categories - though most of it is fake.

Re: What is online pornography doing to sexual tastes and youngsters’ minds?

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Post by Synaesthesia »

nostrademons wrote: post #8
irl_zebra wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moralizing on the subject is terrible, but there are legitimate issues with respect to production of the content and exploitation.

Doesn't that apply to basically every industry in our modern capitalist economy?

Yes but in this instance it frequently includes sexual degradation and exploitation.

Re: What is online pornography doing to sexual tastes and youngsters’ minds?

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Post by Synaesthesia »

elorant wrote: post #23

From my point of view online porn looks boring because it objectifies women too much. It’s just so mechanical nowadays. Whenever I happen to view porn from the eighties it looked much more natural. But then again I guess back then porn actors where only a few dozen and they knew each other quite well so this allowed some kind of intimacy to grow between them. Now porn has become a commodity, there are thousands of ac…

The problem with pornography is not that it reveals too much of the woman, but rather that it reveals too little.

Re: What is online pornography doing to sexual tastes and youngsters’ minds?

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Post by sandworm101 »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #27
sandworm101 wrote: post #16

So kids are forgoing realworld sex. When did that become a bad thing? My whole school life I was 'encouraged' to avoid sex, alcohol and every other vice at all costs. Going to a party on a friday night was a bad thing. Sex, whether through disease or pregnancy, would destroy your life. This is still the mantra, although nobody then told me that sex would send me to hell. That part is new. So why are we not surprised…

Sex is an important part of human relations, to forgo it is to leave out an important part of your personal development in my opinion.

Careful. Sex is an agreement, not a choice. There are lots of people in this world who would like to have sex but for whatever reasons cannot or do not. Abstinence is also a focus of countless religious traditions. I would hesitate to tell any of those people they lacked in personal development.

Re: What is online pornography doing to sexual tastes and youngsters’ minds?

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

sandworm101 wrote: post #13
nostrademons wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't that apply to basically every industry in our modern capitalist economy?

The porn industry does have some specific practical issues. Probably the most is the reliance on very young actresses. Most start while under 20 these days. People that age are too trusting. They get put in bad contracts and don't know their legal rights. For example, I had one girl come to me an say that a studio was claiming to "own" her real name, forbidding her from working under that name with anyone else. They…

> The porn industry does have some specific practical issues. Probably the most is the reliance on very young actresses. Most start while under 20 these days. People that age are too trusting. They get put in bad contracts and don't know their legal rights.

I would argue this is not specific to the porn industry. For instance colleges rely on students being too young and naive to really understand the student loan that they are given. 10 years later many feel betrayed or scammed because they have a degree that isn't always the best in the current economy and still in thousands of debt.

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Post by yc1010 »

reader5000 wrote: post #11

It is very easy to find sexual release with internet porn. More difficult with a real life woman. And therein lies the collapse of western civilization.

I wonder how many problems in the middle east would be solved by bringing em' easy access to porn...

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Post by mbel »

sandworm101 wrote: post #34
Synaesthesia wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sex is an important part of human relations, to forgo it is to leave out an important part of your personal development in my opinion.

Careful. Sex is an agreement, not a choice. There are lots of people in this world who would like to have sex but for whatever reasons cannot or do not. Abstinence is also a focus of countless religious traditions. I would hesitate to tell any of those people they lacked in personal development.

Personally, I think it is crucial in personal development because, as you put it, it is an agreement, not a choice. There are some lessons to be learned from getting somebody to agree with you on something.

Re: What is online pornography doing to sexual tastes and youngsters’ minds?

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Post by gizmo686 »

elorant wrote: post #23

From my point of view online porn looks boring because it objectifies women too much. It’s just so mechanical nowadays. Whenever I happen to view porn from the eighties it looked much more natural. But then again I guess back then porn actors where only a few dozen and they knew each other quite well so this allowed some kind of intimacy to grow between them. Now porn has become a commodity, there are thousands of ac…

I don't buy this. I agree that the quality of modern porn is low, but we need only look to the modern tv/movie market to know that it is possible to produce high quality works in a large industry with large productions.

Re: What is online pornography doing to sexual tastes and youngsters’ minds?

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Post by nostrademons »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #35
sandworm101 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The porn industry does have some specific practical issues. Probably the most is the reliance on very young actresses. Most start while under 20 these days. People that age are too trusting. They get put in bad contracts and don't know their legal rights. For example, I had one girl come to me an say that a studio was claiming to "own" her real name, forbidding her from working under that name with anyone else. They…

> The porn industry does have some specific practical issues. Probably the most is the reliance on very young actresses. Most start while under 20 these days. People that age are too trusting. They get put in bad contracts and don't know their legal rights. I would argue this is not specific to the porn industry. For instance colleges rely on students being too young and naive to really understand the student loan th…

Ditto the music industry with teen pop stars, the professional sports industry with dreams of the major leagues, the tech startup industry where only a small fraction of startups will succeed, all of academia where you have dozens of Ph.Ds competing for each tenured professor job, the legal industry where thousands of deeply-indebted fresh-faced associates seek to make partner, and every corporate hierarchy.

As they say, "When a less-experienced businessman meets a more-experienced businessman, the less-experienced businessman gets some experience."

Not sure if there's any way around this, though. The people who avoid getting taken advantage of when they're young tend to get taken advantage of their whole life.

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Post by jazzyk »

elorant wrote: post #23

From my point of view online porn looks boring because it objectifies women too much. It’s just so mechanical nowadays. Whenever I happen to view porn from the eighties it looked much more natural. But then again I guess back then porn actors where only a few dozen and they knew each other quite well so this allowed some kind of intimacy to grow between them. Now porn has become a commodity, there are thousands of ac…

Indeed, intimacy and passion for each other is beautiful, but it is hard for two complete strangers to fake it. Sex is great, but it is an order of magnitude better when it is an expression of love.

It is like eating a hamburger vs a fancy French meal. In both cases you satisfy your hunger. But the experience of getting there makes all the difference.

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