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Re: One in Three Farms Is Using FarmLogs

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This number ("one in three") is really ambiguous[0], as I haven't seen them state what they consider a farm to be. It could be the Ag Census data (~2.2 million farms), or along some subset (say non-family farms at ~90 thousand), or some farm type (I believe I've previously seen them say "row crop farms"). I'm sure it seems like an impressive stat to throw out there, but it's a lot like saying they're offering a milli…

The question isn't how big the farms are. The question is how are those who are "using" Farmlogs, using FarmLogs. Are they active? Are they using just the basic functionality, or are they using more advanced features?

I'm still involved in farming, and the guys I know who are "using" it, just are using the basic functionality.

Unless they have partnerships, FarmLogs is going to have a difficult time competing with Deere, Case/IH, other equipment manufacturers who are developing their own built-in products with similar feature sets and deeper pockets. Not to mention the local cooperative monopolies, seed companies, etc who are also in the game.

Re: One in Three Farms Is Using FarmLogs

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A bit of a shame it's not ClojureScript, to be honest. What's the rationale CoffeeScript?

I'm relatively new so I can't speak to the original rationale, but right now it fits our needs. I'd love to do some ClojureScript (or just ES2015 through Babel), but right now we're focusing on building stuff instead of playing with languages :)

Just want to point out that I personally don't think Babel/ES6/ES2015 is ready for production yet. I just wrote a small library with it and ran into several hiccups with continuous integration, which was fixed by specifying a specific node and npm version of which both were I think just the default linux packages. If I ran into problems scratching the surface I can only imagine what headaches a deeper usage could cause. I realize this is a bit off topic, and would be interested to hear from someone whose done it, but I wouldn't want anyone to jump in head first and hit the bottom of the pool..

Re: One in Three Farms Is Using FarmLogs

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Can you explain why you feel it's a shame? We write a lot of Clojure at FarmLogs but there is certainly a time and a place for it. We handle iOS push notifications with Ruby, a lot of data and image processing with Python, and even run .NET/Mono in a few areas. Our stack is very diverse and we do a really great job considering what the best technology for a particular problem might be. Clojurescript is certainly inte…

It seems pretty obvious: You're giving up using one (great) language, which you already know, end-to-end. I can't think of a good reason to do this, especially when an entire UI revolution is being led, right now, in ClojureScript. What possible reasons could there be for giving that up? (See my other comment below as well.)

Anecdotal but whenever I see a lot of diversity in a stack it usually means there are a lot of different preferences on the development team, or that the stack was developed over a longer period of time with many members (and their preferences) coming and going. While yea, any SE should be able to pick up and run with any language, it is quite possible their team no longer has the same experience in Clojure or alternatively has way more experience in their current front runner (Python, Ruby, whatever). If that's the case I think it's quite reasonable (at least from a business stand point) to use alternate tools.

Re: One in Three Farms Is Using FarmLogs

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This number ("one in three") is really ambiguous[0], as I haven't seen them state what they consider a farm to be. It could be the Ag Census data (~2.2 million farms), or along some subset (say non-family farms at ~90 thousand), or some farm type (I believe I've previously seen them say "row crop farms"). I'm sure it seems like an impressive stat to throw out there, but it's a lot like saying they're offering a milli…

Happy to clear that up. We don't count hobby farms as they aren't our typical users. We are focusing on the ~280k row crop farms in the US of which over 90k have started using FarmLogs. Most of our customers have between 600 and 10k acres of land each.

Re: One in Three Farms Is Using FarmLogs

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Mixed reviews from actual farmers: http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=564750&... http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=574159&... http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=544745&...

A lot of people who really love it, and some people who dislike that their satellite-based rainfall gauge is just an estimate? Am I missing something here? Seems more positive then just "mixed reviews" would imply to me.

Re: One in Three Farms Is Using FarmLogs

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This number ("one in three") is really ambiguous[0], as I haven't seen them state what they consider a farm to be. It could be the Ag Census data (~2.2 million farms), or along some subset (say non-family farms at ~90 thousand), or some farm type (I believe I've previously seen them say "row crop farms"). I'm sure it seems like an impressive stat to throw out there, but it's a lot like saying they're offering a milli…

Yeah, as a former farmer I'm a little bit skeptical. Last I checked the vast majority of farms out there aren't large operations, but incredibly small family-owned "hobby farms" or market gardens (what most of us would identify as a small vegetable farm). Having known many farmers over the years, I can only think of one who would really have a use for this. The rest would probably just dismiss it without much thought…

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Re: One in Three Farms Is Using FarmLogs

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This number ("one in three") is really ambiguous[0], as I haven't seen them state what they consider a farm to be. It could be the Ag Census data (~2.2 million farms), or along some subset (say non-family farms at ~90 thousand), or some farm type (I believe I've previously seen them say "row crop farms"). I'm sure it seems like an impressive stat to throw out there, but it's a lot like saying they're offering a milli…

Yeah, as a former farmer I'm a little bit skeptical. Last I checked the vast majority of farms out there aren't large operations, but incredibly small family-owned "hobby farms" or market gardens (what most of us would identify as a small vegetable farm). Having known many farmers over the years, I can only think of one who would really have a use for this. The rest would probably just dismiss it without much thought…

In Australia we've seen nothing but farm getting larger over the last 15-20 years. It's also interesting to compare the size of farm he's talking about to what we have here. On our property we have single fields 2x the size of what they consider a small farm (600acres).
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