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Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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Here is what it Apple said regarding my my refund. http://pastebin.com/2zgmekPi

Weird. I'm in the UK, and just chose the 'I want to cancel the order' option.

The email confirming my request and the email confirming the refund had been accepted literally arrived in the same minute.

Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Pretty easy to put your money where your mouth is when you have gobs of it.

That's just a pointlessly catty thing to say.

Doesn't make it any less true though. It's really easy to act on what you believe is unethical if you have plenty of money just in case it turns sour. Not everyone has that luxury. You can say everyone should be act ethical and I agree but I also understand in the many cases where they don't think they can.

Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought he was using Ghost's ad lists? I don't think he was making the decisions of which to block at all. He just made the tool that enabled those defined blocks to be made.

That's a fair point. However, by proxying that list to his users, he's still in the position of choosing which ads to block — even if he's delegating that authority to others (in essence, he's choosing who chooses).

True, since he did make some kind of agreement with Ghost (if I recall correctly) basically making a partnership on that end.

Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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post #28

About this guilt for ad-blocking thing: wasn't Marco's entire fortune (pre Tumblr buyout) made by selling a service used to bypass content owners entirely and read their articles without ads, in one page, and in his own templates?

Not really. Instapaper's design was such that you had to look at the site — with all the ads — at least once to save the page to it. This was by design. Instapaper users wouldn't see ads on subsequent pages or on subsequent viewings, though.

Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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post #29

(In general "which charity" has a simple answer: any. In general donating proceeds immediately solves accusations of self-interest, except perhaps for the component that it's reactionary rather than being announced ahead of time.)

> In general donating proceeds immediately solves accusations of self-interest Well, you still get the tax deducations, don't you? Plus the goodwill ("here I gave all those to charity") bought with other people's money.

The tax deduction just cancels out the tax liability from receiving that money.

Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

#37
Translation: "Ad blocking is turning out to be way more popular than we expected, and it's making some rich friends of mine very scared."

Even I'm surprised at how popular ad blocking is becoming. I would not have expected the general public to be willing to actually pay money to block ads.

Of course, when you have ads that try to take over my browser (Android), won't go away when you hit the "go away" button (iOS), or ads that suddenly play loud audio (both), I guess it's no surprise that even the general public now regards online ads as a nuisance to be blocked.

I have to admit, I have uninstalled quite a few apps recently because of offensively-intrusive advertising.

Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just a pointlessly catty thing to say.

Doesn't make it any less true to the point that's a trivial observation: people with more money can more easily afford to give some of it where "their mouth is".

Nevertheless, just because it's "easier" doesn't mean that it's actually done - there are plenty of arsehole rich folks who could spread their money around more. A rich person being nice is still a person being nice.

Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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post #37

Translation: "Ad blocking is turning out to be way more popular than we expected, and it's making some rich friends of mine very scared." Even I'm surprised at how popular ad blocking is becoming. I would not have expected the general public to be willing to actually pay money to block ads. Of course, when you have ads that try to take over my browser (Android), won't go away when you hit the "go away" button (iOS),…

Welcome to the Streisand effect.

While it was extensions for browsers etc, it was one thing. But now Apple (take note) has built it into their most talked about product.

And given how the media production and apple products are intertwined, suddenly the media people sit up, take notes, and start talking/writing about it.

Re: Apple refunding all purchases of Peace

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Other things he could've considered:

  - changing Peace into a more responsible content-blocker, if that was his concern
  - giving the proceeds to charity
  - putting the proceeds towards a new type of ad company, or a new type of new/media business
  - funding scholarships for journalists
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