Hiroyuki Nishimura the previous administrator of 2ch.net sold the user data of 2channel users and he was fired by Jim, who happens to be the host of 8ch.net. Sweet sweet irony.
Is there any source on this?
Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
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Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the thinly-disguised harassment campaign I am not convinced that repeating a lie a thousand times will make this claim the truth. The propaganda may have worked well back when gamergate was completely unknown to the general public, but we are past that, I think.
You’re partially right at least. It’s now a completely undisguised harassment campaign.
Yeah, no. People claiming "harassment!" absent evidence is not proof of said harassment existing, doubly so when the people shouting the loudest have a profit motive for its supposed existence.
Also: It would be rather disingenuous to claim that gamergate are a bunch of harassers without acknowledging that prominent people within the movement have received things like syringes and knives in the mail... and been blackballed from the industry..
Kind of puts in perspective this "harassment", which at its worst, can be described as "people saying mean things on the internet".
http://deepfreeze.it - also all public record.
Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#33Hiroyuki Nishimura the previous administrator of 2ch.net sold the user data of 2channel users and he was fired by Jim, who happens to be the host of 8ch.net. Sweet sweet irony.
2ch also offered a paid post deletion service used by political parties when Nishimura was running it, after the 2ch coup he scraped the site and started 2ch.sc This is the guy who runs 2ch/8ch https://twitter.com/xerxeswatkins
Puts this quote in a new light:
>He is one of few individuals with a deep understanding of what it means to provide a digital home for tens of millions of people for more than a decade. There is nobody more qualified than Hiroyuki to lead 4chan, and I can't think of a person better suited for the task.
Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of 4chan users got upset when moot banned gamergate, the thinly-disguised harassment campaign. Since gamergate characterises any opposition to it whatsoever as being from 'SJWs', 4chan mods are thus 'SJWs'.
> the thinly-disguised harassment campaign I am not convinced that repeating a lie a thousand times will make this claim the truth. The propaganda may have worked well back when gamergate was completely unknown to the general public, but we are past that, I think.
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Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am curious, could you think of some examples of the great ways it influenced the internet?
Much of the dank memes that have become completely mainstream in social media can be traced to 4chan in one way or another. Something Awful also used to be responsible for a lot, but lost relevance a long time ago. I don't know if this is "great" as in implying a positive value judgment, but it is great in magnitude.
Something Awful is also the only reason that 4chan exists in the first place. It was created as a refuge for the SA anime forum (ADTRW) after Lowtax purged the users from Raspberry Heaven (the SA DC++ hub for anime). Nearly every founding admin/mod was a permabanned SA user.
Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#36Note that 2channel's URL is not 2chan.net, but 2ch.net, and it's a text-only site. It is more commonly known as "2ch". It's interesting to see that both 2ch/2chan have not really changed since they were created, whereas 4chan went through quite a bit of "modernising". I wonder if 4chan might start turning back to a 2ch/2chan-ish style with this.
> I wonder if 4chan might start turning back to a 2ch/2chan-ish style with this.
Do you think they will change all images to ASCII art as well?
Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Disagree. 4chan is great and important. It shaped the Internet we know today in so many great ways, and in a few cautionary ways as well. Moot should be proud.
I am curious, could you think of some examples of the great ways it influenced the internet?
Look past the media slant and you will find one of the last true bad lands of the internet, mired in post irony, where speech is free and each poster's opinion is as equally without value as another. Where unpopular opinions are given as much weight as popular ones (i.e. barely any). Its equal parts a utopia and a cesspool.
Without it, there would be no such thing as "internet culture".
Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of 4chan users got upset when moot banned gamergate, the thinly-disguised harassment campaign. Since gamergate characterises any opposition to it whatsoever as being from 'SJWs', 4chan mods are thus 'SJWs'.
I think what people tend to get upset about is having their opinions dismissed and smugly described as a harassment campaign. Both sides of that stupid gamergate fiasco had legitimate complaints and both sides had assholes who harassed the other side. I mean it's pretty easy to see what camp you fall into, and you're basically ascribing a very shallow set of beliefs to an entire group of people - the exact same thing…
So some research and it is easy to see the beginning of the GG movement was mainly a force to harass people like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian.
Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#39I feel bad for moot. He'll probably be known for the rest of his life for creating a cesspool he never made much money from.
> he never made much money from
You believe that? Dude banked on both the sale and takeover, plus the ad revenue when he was running the site.
He had no alternative but to push the poverty myth (Kevin Rose@Digg also did this). Can you imagine what the users would do if he disclosed how much he was raking in?
My guess? $10 million n/w post sale, most likely much more.
Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan
#40Note that 2channel's URL is not 2chan.net, but 2ch.net, and it's a text-only site. It is more commonly known as "2ch". It's interesting to see that both 2ch/2chan have not really changed since they were created, whereas 4chan went through quite a bit of "modernising". I wonder if 4chan might start turning back to a 2ch/2chan-ish style with this.
> I wonder if 4chan might start turning back to a 2ch/2chan-ish style with this. Do you think they will change all images to ASCII art as well?
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