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Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

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Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#31
This is definitely a hard lesson to learn for many. Recruiters often cite that it's a routine question. But just because it is, doesn't mean you should answer it.

I've seen some recruiters straight up refuse to work with me when I wouldn't disclose my current salary. Very glad they did.

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#32
post #8

When you know you're above market, it's not unreasonable to disclose, knowing they'll go to your old employer and verify you are the "real" deal. There's little that's a more powerful statement of your value to your prior employer as the salary you'd previously negotiated.

If you do that, you're only going to get an offer slightly above what you currently make. Even if you're way above market, it's worth having them make the first offer. You can potentially negotiate it well above your current compensation from there.

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#33

Wait, what happened to freely disclosing your salary to everyone? Remember the hashtag movement?? You mean to tell me that this is actually a bad idea?

The Twitter movement was about gathering information so that those who are underpaid can realize how underpaid they are and potentially change that.

This post seems to be more about at a personal level, and not giving in when the salary negotiations start.

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#34
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just tell them it's confidential.

Internally, sharing your salary with co-workers is federally protected speech. You could argue to a recruiter that your salary exposed publicly is sharing trade secrets.

Keepin mind that the actual protections here are relatively weak.

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#35
post #8

When you know you're above market, it's not unreasonable to disclose, knowing they'll go to your old employer and verify you are the "real" deal. There's little that's a more powerful statement of your value to your prior employer as the salary you'd previously negotiated.

Are you suggesting the previous employer is allowed to divulge that kind of information?

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#36
post #12
post #5

Ignoring the recruiter problem for a second, should I ever feel obligated to disclose salary information? I have had potential employers straight up ask me what my current salary is, should I just tell them I'm not going to answer that question?

You're generally not even allowed to discuss your salary with your colleagues after (if) you're hired by one of those potential employers. If it's confidential after that, it should be confidential before, too.

Policies that prohibit discussion of Salary are illegal.

http://www.npr.org/2014/04/13/301989789/pay-secrecy-policies...

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#37
post #4

Recruiters are often paid x% of one year's base salary. In this case, your interests are aligned with the interest of the recruiter. In my experience, recruiters are 'box checkers'. They have little to no knowledge of your skill set or the skills required for the job outside of buzz words that can be printed on a resume. The reason recruiters ask for your salary is not to engage in price fixing but to ensure that the…

Only theoretically. The difference between a decent negation and a great one relative to the difference in time for that negotiation.

I can look it up later but it has been shown that real estate brokers wait longer for better prices on their own house than they do for their clients.

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#38
post #2

Seriously, read this post, listen to this post. I am a terrible negotiator (as in I have taken pay cuts because jobs seemed interesting and paid sticker price for cars) and hate it like 95% of the rest of software engineers but it's how the game is played and we're both ourselves individually and ourselves as a group a disservice by not protecting this information.

Why do you say 95% of software engineers hate price negotiations? This would imply 95% of software engineers are unaware of their fair market price and thus feel ill prepared for the most critical negotiations process of their foreseeable future (even if that future extends only a few months or years). It's only a job - you offer time and professional experience for a set price and the prospective employer evaluates the value proposition.

Society at large does not work as a huge family - this does not mean that it's a dog eat dog world but it's good to have some negotioations theory under ones belt as one becomes a seasoned professional.

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#39
post #12
post #5

Ignoring the recruiter problem for a second, should I ever feel obligated to disclose salary information? I have had potential employers straight up ask me what my current salary is, should I just tell them I'm not going to answer that question?

You're generally not even allowed to discuss your salary with your colleagues after (if) you're hired by one of those potential employers. If it's confidential after that, it should be confidential before, too.

Discussion of salaries between coworkers is a federally protected right.

Re: Do Not Disclose Your Salary to Recruiters

#40
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just tell them it's confidential.

Internally, sharing your salary with co-workers is federally protected speech. You could argue to a recruiter that your salary exposed publicly is sharing trade secrets.

Not in Calfornia: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection...

Even federally arguing that current salary is a trade secret is a legal gray area.

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