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We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Scaleway is a highly interesting player in the IaaS market as they're one of the few currently that are offering ARM based servers. Will we see more ARM servers the next couple of years from more vendors?

Almost certainly. There is another generation of ARM SoC's coming out with more and beefier cores, specifically designed for servers. One thing I'm curious about is whether this price reduction from Scaleway means they are close to announcing availability of those.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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post #30

For every comparison we should take into account that scaleway offers dedicated hardware, not a VPS. Also I think its important to note that they (currently) only offer one very "small" server model, so your whole application would have to be able to scale horizontally really well to be able to run on such infrastructure. So you can't have a few big database servers and a lot of small stateless application servers, w…

But... Scaleway is a spinoff of Online.net which offers fine (and cheap) dedicated Intel servers. I don't know (yet) the ping between Scaleway and online.net but it's probably low enough to allow scaling "workers" on ARM servers, while DBs are kept on 64bits dedicated Intel servers.

Also if you want to scale horizontally, you probably want to scale on more than one datacenter (online provides that too).

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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post #30

For every comparison we should take into account that scaleway offers dedicated hardware, not a VPS. Also I think its important to note that they (currently) only offer one very "small" server model, so your whole application would have to be able to scale horizontally really well to be able to run on such infrastructure. So you can't have a few big database servers and a lot of small stateless application servers, w…

But... Scaleway is a spinoff of Online.net which offers fine (and cheap) dedicated Intel servers. I don't know (yet) the ping between Scaleway and online.net but it's probably low enough to allow scaling "workers" on ARM servers, while DBs are kept on 64bits dedicated Intel servers. Also if you want to scale horizontally, you probably want to scale on more than one datacenter (online provides that too).

By the look of it they use the same DCs (Iliad DC2 & DC3): https://www.scaleway.com/faq/general/

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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post #30

For every comparison we should take into account that scaleway offers dedicated hardware, not a VPS. Also I think its important to note that they (currently) only offer one very "small" server model, so your whole application would have to be able to scale horizontally really well to be able to run on such infrastructure. So you can't have a few big database servers and a lot of small stateless application servers, w…

But... Scaleway is a spinoff of Online.net which offers fine (and cheap) dedicated Intel servers. I don't know (yet) the ping between Scaleway and online.net but it's probably low enough to allow scaling "workers" on ARM servers, while DBs are kept on 64bits dedicated Intel servers. Also if you want to scale horizontally, you probably want to scale on more than one datacenter (online provides that too).

Scaleway servers are hosted in Online.net's DC2, you can get dedicated servers in the same DC, or in another one of their DCs which are all directly linked to one another.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

#36

This is brilliant because the main cost of running gear is power draw (PDUs / electrical circuits). Having OEM/ODM blade ARM setup a-la sgi cloudrack/supermicro is the way to drive costs to the floor, in a Backblaze/Google way. Unfortunately, it's a "Dell/Walmart model" hypercommodity where such a business has to maintain massive customer subscriptions to stay cash positive and still just trickles in $. It's an inter…

> I would probably optimize for the other extreme of "Apple model" premium/full-service expensive hosting that has fantastic uptime, gear and sales/support for enterprise/startup and IT/web operations... There's some more money in that and less headaches. (The most money seems to be in the upper-middle pricepoint area.) A few weeks ago, I'd say "You mean AWS", but after this morning, and a few other incidents over th…

I have fantastic uptime on linode. Averages probably 9 months?

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discover has pretty great international support[1]. Fair enough if they can't though. [1] https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/help-center/account/in...

Afaik they're mostly accepted in Europe via their partnership with the payment processing network of Diner's Club (vs. directly seeing a "Discover" sign). Diner's Club is moderately widespread but only in certain market segments, like restaurants and higher-end stores. Not many European ecommerce shops will take Discover or Diner's Club, not even big ones like Amazon [1]. [1] http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/…

Diner's club is not used much here, it is occasionally accepted, along with the Japanese cards.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I would probably optimize for the other extreme of "Apple model" premium/full-service expensive hosting that has fantastic uptime, gear and sales/support for enterprise/startup and IT/web operations... There's some more money in that and less headaches. (The most money seems to be in the upper-middle pricepoint area.) A few weeks ago, I'd say "You mean AWS", but after this morning, and a few other incidents over th…

I have fantastic uptime on linode. Averages probably 9 months?

Is that just uptime as reported by the OS, or actual time between outages? The server can be happily churning away even if its network connection goes down.

I've been on Linode for a while, and have also had a decent experience. However, I wouldn't use uptime as my only metric.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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This makes them very similar in price to Digital Ocean, even slightly cheaper. I wonder what the performance comparison would be between their equivalent tiers... Their S3-compatible object storage is also quite appealing. Being in North America though, I'd love if they had a data centre option here too.

They seem to provide much more memory at a slightly cheaper price, but given that it is arm I am not sure I care - can you run Ruby, Python and (Oracle) JVM?

I really just wanted a cheap server for Minecraft.

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