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Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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The problem with Youtube as a music platform is the mobile app. Minimizing the app to do another task (like replying to a text) stops the video from playing and in turn stops the audio from playing. If they allow it to play in the background then a lot more people would use it as their music source.

The Youtube app on Android is able to be minimized and will continue to play. However, it does not work on iOS.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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post #28

The problem with Youtube as a music platform is the mobile app. Minimizing the app to do another task (like replying to a text) stops the video from playing and in turn stops the audio from playing. If they allow it to play in the background then a lot more people would use it as their music source.

The Youtube app on Android is able to be minimized and will continue to play. However, it does not work on iOS.

I don't see such option

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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I would happily pay a monthly fee to never see another advert.

If the fee is reasonable, say €10, I wouldn't mind paying. My "issue" is that I also don't want to log in.

Yeah, that's my issue too. Google's suggestions service is incredibly invasive, and does an utterly terrible job. I like to fall asleep listening to a variety of different relaxation videos, so that means any time I open up the youtube app on my phone, it bombards with me with nothing but weird looking ASMR videos that - to somebody who's never seen the concept - probably look like porn. I couldn't imagine hooking up my account to my TV and having people who come over look and think "what the fuck is this guy watching?"

Privacy goes beyond me being concerned that google knows my viewing habits... I don't care much about that. I care a lot about being pigeonholed into a certain type of viewer based on what I've viewed before. I don't want to be in an echo chamber, and I don't want google's view of "relevance" to surround me with only the types of videos I've watched in the past. It eventually becomes like breathing your own exhaust fumes.

Google could do better at this, but they seem to be misguided in thinking that people want this. The only solution right now is to not log in with an account, but even then they try and use cookies to get a fix on your viewing habits. It's really kind of sad that they don't see that this turns a lot of people away.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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The Youtube app on Android is able to be minimized and will continue to play. However, it does not work on iOS.

I don't see such option

Another comment said you can only use this feature within the YouTube app with a Google Play subscription. Makes sense, as I cannot find the option anywhere.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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post #28

The problem with Youtube as a music platform is the mobile app. Minimizing the app to do another task (like replying to a text) stops the video from playing and in turn stops the audio from playing. If they allow it to play in the background then a lot more people would use it as their music source.

I seem to recall that this restriction was part of their agreement with rights holders.

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If the fee is reasonable, say €10, I wouldn't mind paying. My "issue" is that I also don't want to log in.

Yeah, that's my issue too. Google's suggestions service is incredibly invasive, and does an utterly terrible job. I like to fall asleep listening to a variety of different relaxation videos, so that means any time I open up the youtube app on my phone, it bombards with me with nothing but weird looking ASMR videos that - to somebody who's never seen the concept - probably look like porn. I couldn't imagine hooking up…

Have you tried to clear and disable your watch history under your Privacy settings (on a device) or History settings (in the left money on desktop)?

I think you hugely overestimate how measurable this concern is.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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post #28

The problem with Youtube as a music platform is the mobile app. Minimizing the app to do another task (like replying to a text) stops the video from playing and in turn stops the audio from playing. If they allow it to play in the background then a lot more people would use it as their music source.

To add to what the others have said - this is part of YouTube Music Key, included with a Play Music subscription.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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It seems like the move would be to try and spin off a netflix like service for videos > 15 minutes. Curate and invest in quality content and then charge for it. Google is the search engine of choice for most of the world and the lowest common denomenator when you type yourfav.newartist into your search bar because it is direct, frictionless and free. When Chris Sacca tried to monetize sports/content at youtube/google…

It seems likely people would just divide their long videos up into shorter segments just as they do now. I think it's probably got more to do with how content creators monetize their work-you let them put it behind the premium service and pay them more per view or something similar. Then your content creators start pushing your subscription service for you, I'd expect putting most of it free and a section of it behind paywall.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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post #28

The problem with Youtube as a music platform is the mobile app. Minimizing the app to do another task (like replying to a text) stops the video from playing and in turn stops the audio from playing. If they allow it to play in the background then a lot more people would use it as their music source.

To add to what the others have said - this is part of YouTube Music Key, included with a Play Music subscription.

I've gotten so used to this it's actually quite jarring when I want to background a video and I get the "rightsholder doesn't allow this" notice.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Ad Blocking stops ads from being shoved in your face. There's an obvious and immediate benefit to every user who tries it. Do Not Call stops annoying phone calls from interrupting you. Again, people demand it, because it makes a real difference in their lives. Do Not Track, on the other hand, seems to be a total flop. (In FireFox, 8% adoption rate and falling; in other browsers, presumably even worse.) I don't see ho…

There's a long history behind the collective implementation failure of "Do Not Track". The point is that there was stakeholder demand for the feature, even if the demand was to avoid regulation, or even if the implementation was botched.

Which stackholders? I've never seen demand for DNT by the advertisers, it was an initiative by two researchers working for Mozilla and the ACLU, and which was then taken on by the W3C. From what I can tell, the industry mostly ignored it.
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