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Re: Amazon joins in on killing Flash, stops accepting Flash ads

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How hard would it be to convert those Flash videos into mp4s for archival in the IA? EDIT: Looks like they've been uploaded to Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/homestarrunnerdotcom

Not quite so straight forward, a lot of their videos were interactive for hidden gems. They will be lost when moving to a linear file format.

Excellent point.

Re: Amazon joins in on killing Flash, stops accepting Flash ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How hard would it be to convert those Flash videos into mp4s for archival in the IA? EDIT: Looks like they've been uploaded to Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/homestarrunnerdotcom

Not quite so straight forward, a lot of their videos were interactive for hidden gems. They will be lost when moving to a linear file format.

I wonder if we could wrap them in an OpenFL app exported to HTML5. OpenFL can render SWF content; as for the triggers for the interactive bits that might require access to the original source, alternatively it could be reproduced, it's usually just a matter of "click here to go to scene X" and the hidden scenes themselves would be extant already.

Re: Amazon joins in on killing Flash, stops accepting Flash ads

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post #13

We need Google to remove bundling Flash player in Chrome. Chrome for OS X has Flash built-in. Not sure about other build.

My understanding is that Chrome for Flash uses Pepper (a NaCl extension) for its plugin support so its not a vector for attack. You can always turn it off from chrome:plugins.

>plugin support so its not a vector for attack.

I wanna say this is untrue, I vaguely recalling an exploit within the past month or so.

Re: Amazon joins in on killing Flash, stops accepting Flash ads

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post #8

You know Flash is dead when Homestar Runner says it's dead! http://www.homestarrunner.com/flashisdead.html For those who don't know, this site was a legit phenomenon in the early 2000's, and it has always been 100% flash-based. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestar_Runner

How hard would it be to convert those Flash videos into mp4s for archival in the IA? EDIT: Looks like they've been uploaded to Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/homestarrunnerdotcom

is it necessary? having html5-based flash players seems a better solution.

Re: Amazon joins in on killing Flash, stops accepting Flash ads

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post #15

I tried to uninstall Flash, but my bank (Citi) uses it for their one-time credit card # applet. And, I miss a lot of videos on the internets, but I can live without those. The bank thing, I cannot. (Yeah, I complained and was told moving away is "in the works.")

I just have it disabled, and then enable it temporarily if I need it for a particular site.

Re: Amazon joins in on killing Flash, stops accepting Flash ads

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post #22

The only thing I will miss on flash is the Copy to clippboard feature (e.g http://zeroclipboard.org/ ). Is there other way to do the same when flash will be extinct?

see document.execCommand("copy"), document.execCommand("cut"): https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Document/ex...

So in other words... NO.

Re: Amazon joins in on killing Flash, stops accepting Flash ads

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Amazon is switching to JavaScript animated ads to support all devices. This isn't anything against Flash, this is a business decision to reach more eyeballs.

Flash is fast. JavaScript/HTML5/WebGL/etc are just recently getting close to the performance we had in Flash 10+ years ago. Flash is perceived to be slow because it was used to make obtrusive advertising, like JavaScript is used now.

The evil dictator has been replaced, with much fanfare, by a new evil dictator!

An example from 2010 of Flash running in-browser 3D with millions of polygons and lighting effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szaXvTsoeVs

Re: Amazon joins in on killing Flash, stops accepting Flash ads

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Cool. Now if only Amazon would eat its own dogfood. Their Prime Music/Cloud library music player still requires Flash in order to use.

Yes, I just discovered this when I moved to a FreeBSD desktop using Chromium, where there is no flash.
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