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Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by lobo_tuerto » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 2:55 PM UTC

lolive wrote: post #7

Off topic question from a newbie: is Angular 2.0 simpler to learn (than Angular 1.x)?

I found this video that compares doing some common operations in Angular 1, Angular 2 and Aurelia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLuuAlDXHU0

It's fairly recent too: August 3 2015.

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by egfx » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 3:01 PM UTC

Angular 1.x to 2 reminds me of the transition that Flash made from ActionScript2 to ActionScript3. AS2 had a bunch of newfangled conventions just like Angular and then AS3 came along and made everything more sensible. Speaking of front end frameworks though. I wonder what happened with Enyo and why that didn't take off.

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by hockeybias » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 3:09 PM UTC

lolive wrote: post #7

Off topic question from a newbie: is Angular 2.0 simpler to learn (than Angular 1.x)?

If you come from an OO and/or typed language background and TypeScript looks wonderful to you, I think it definitely is.

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by ralphc » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 3:11 PM UTC

neovive wrote: post #15

This reminds me of a similar landing page for React Native support for Android. http://www.reactnativeandroid.com/

Don't forget the Large Hadron Collider http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by mixonic » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 3:15 PM UTC

JDDunn9 wrote: post #29

bluejekyll wrote: post #16

After working with react, IMO angular 2 is probably going to come to the game too late. If it's anywhere as complex as 1, then I see no point in using it. React takes the cake in simplicity and expressiveness. It's also a truly component oriented system.

React is not a framework... Yes, the future will be web components, which would mean Polymer / x-tag until the spec is in all modern browsers. React will die when web components don't need polyfills.

All major web frameworks have settled on a pattern of using components to manage not only private DOM, but also to manage data scoping. The web components standard is a long, long way from doing anything related to data-passing.

For anything larger than a simple widget, I highly doubt you will see a move to use native web components for a long time. There are application architecture issues they have not even begun to tackle.

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by evilduck » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 3:34 PM UTC

kylecordes wrote: post #21

bluejekyll wrote: post #16

After working with react, IMO angular 2 is probably going to come to the game too late. If it's anywhere as complex as 1, then I see no point in using it. React takes the cake in simplicity and expressiveness. It's also a truly component oriented system.

From looking at the Angular 2 alpha, design documents, etc., it looks to end up with considerably less accidental complexity (from an application developer point of view) than version 1, and it has a lot of ideas under the hood which are reminiscent of React. I think the most visible difference will remain that React is code centric, with templates as a sort of special case of code. Angular (1, 2) is more explicitly…

Also if you've got an Angular 1.x app already, moving to 2, while probably just as hard as moving to React or something else, let's you remain soley in the "Angular community" where people in similar positions of straddling both versions can share knowledge.

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by te_chris » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 4:00 PM UTC

ralphc wrote: post #34

neovive wrote: post #15

This reminds me of a similar landing page for React Native support for Android. http://www.reactnativeandroid.com/

Don't forget the Large Hadron Collider http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/

Or Thatcher http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by jbigelow76 » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 4:13 PM UTC

Is anyone ignoring the Angular team's advice and going to prod with Angular 2 already? I've got an Angular 1.3ish app rotting on the vine that needs serious love but I don't want to touch it until I can at the very least make use of the new router (I never used UI router and now regret it) but I can't wait on that forever.

They may warn us that the alpha bits change frequently but if it works on one alpha build there would be nothing forcing the move to the next alpha.

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by lemevi » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 4:14 PM UTC

joshburgess wrote: post #27

bluejekyll wrote: post #16

After working with react, IMO angular 2 is probably going to come to the game too late. If it's anywhere as complex as 1, then I see no point in using it. React takes the cake in simplicity and expressiveness. It's also a truly component oriented system.

Honestly, there are plenty of other options out there besides Angular and even React, despite the tremendous hype around it at the moment. Aurelia seems to be the best ideas from Angular + the best ideas from the creator's previous framework, Durandal, in one framework with much cleaner syntax and much less complexity than both Angular & Angular 2.0. Ember has made some big updates recently, rewriting their rendering…

> A lot of people still seem to really like Meteor.

Meteor officially supports React and Angular. Meteor is a web and mobile development platform, not a front-end framework.

Re: Is Angular 2.0 ready?

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Post by bgwhn » Wed, Aug 19, 2015, 4:23 PM UTC

gauravagarwalr wrote: post #22

neovive wrote: post #15

This reminds me of a similar landing page for React Native support for Android. http://www.reactnativeandroid.com/

Is that official? I get no indication from the site whatsoever , plus the page points to https://twitter.com/juanmacuevas !

The website wasn't made by anyone on the React Native team, but it is based on an "official" statement, though the time estimate was simply a best-guess. It'll be out when it's ready.