So Tesla goes Android.
All Our Patent Are Belong To You
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the precise thing that patents are designed to prevent: to keep the market from turning into a race to see who can outsource most efficiently to China and inundate the public most completely with advertising. Patents were largely designed to enable the state to have a selectively published library of what was being invented in the country and to reduce the power of trade guilds, who had huge power at the time…
Seems weird that you would have them publicly published for your enemies to read if that were the sole motivation.
You don't. Patents are selectively published according to national security criteria.
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#293If you want to track the death of the cultural vision of Silicon Valley -- the belief that some people, at least, can rise above petty human squabbling and competition and are legitimately working to better humanity -- look no further than this thread. Every top comment is a skeptical one. "This is clearly a great PR move, but has no teeth." "How do you enforce this guarantee?" Etc. These are reasonable questions, bu…
I think this is symptom of media consumption and drama led narratives. We are so used to seeing the great and the good destroyed and pillared by media institutions who have an axe to grind, that when someone does actually do something positive, it is seen with utter cynicism by most (what's in it for them).
If you can see past that, you will see that Mr Musk is acting in his own interests and the interests of humanity as a whole at the same time. He is giving away the patents to help create a marketplace he can compete in, he is also giving away the patents because he feels that this will help humanity.
There is nothing wrong with either approach really, just a balance that needs to be struck between them.
This balance is what the media distorts, it creates a drama where the figurehead is 'good' or 'bad'. The truth is that no one is entirely either, but their actions can be.
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#294This is a pretty good gesture. It will be good to spurt innovation since smaller players in the area don't need to worry about infringing. What about the defensive measure? To defend against being sued. It would be good if Tesla pools the patents with others to form an "open patent" club where all the interested parties can join and use the patent to defend against infringement lawsuits.
Think you mean 'spur' not 'spurt'.
Sorry to be a pedant! Great points. :-)
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Easier would be if they created an online form or possibly a meatspace dropbox (to realistically prevent DDOSes) which auto-issues you a license to use their patents at zero monetary cost or cost of postage.
I can't see the need for automation here. It's not like millions will wake up tomorrow to build electric cars in their garages and start a company to sell those.
yeah, not so many ppl are gonna use their patents.
Imo there will be :
* Other car manufacturers (such as BMW, that already contacted Tesla on this matter : http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/12/5804890/bmw-confirms-that-...
* Oil stations (Esso, BP ,etc.). Electricity based car ARE the future. This is their chance to become a part of it.
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#296If you want to track the death of the cultural vision of Silicon Valley -- the belief that some people, at least, can rise above petty human squabbling and competition and are legitimately working to better humanity -- look no further than this thread. Every top comment is a skeptical one. "This is clearly a great PR move, but has no teeth." "How do you enforce this guarantee?" Etc. These are reasonable questions, bu…
>The end product he's producing will save humanity.
Well that's a relief, I was getting a bit worried there what with North Korea and Iran building nukes and the middle east devolving into world war III.
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#297Good move! At this point Tesla knows that market needs to be created and it is impossible to achieve unless auto industry works in tandem. Once the market expands, the pie is bigger for everybody.
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#298Assuming that this search represents nearly all of them, that is approximately 133 patents: https://www.google.com/?tbm=pts&gws_rd=ssl#q=inassignee:%22T... Edit: Nice catch, peter_l_downs ... I didn't realize that the estimated search result of 6,430 would be off by such a large factor.
This is not like IBM making some of its less important patents available to the community. This is huge. How many times in the past has a private company opened up its core patents for everyone to use? There aren't that many precedences.
Volvo did that for modern seatbelts in the interest of public safety (and IIRC for every other security-related invention they had patented)
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've always thought that Apple is driven by wanting to control its own destiny and not have the short term interests of the market dictate its decisions. That's why it is stockpiling cash and hesitating to pay it out to its shareholders. There are a million reasons why I really want to like Apple. But I can't, because they use mostly trivial patents offensively against their competitors. That's not controlling one's…
It's fascinating how any post even mildly critical of Apple manages to get downvoted.
I'm not a fan of Apple, but down-voted you for the fact that your comment isn't relevant in the chain. Yes, Apple's use of patents sucks and I too hate that, but it's not a contradictory point to the opinion that they "try to control their own destiny", so all you've done is chuck in an anti-Apple issue where it wasn't needed.
Comments like that don't do anything other than push Apple fanboys to champion them even more, followed by Apple haters to criticise them even more.
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people are actually unaware of Ford's "innovations" on pay, or the reasoning behind them, but that does not dilute the profound impact the actions had.
It's 4th grade US history curriculum.
What's learned in the 4th grade curriculum about "$5 a day" is about as accurate as what I learned in 4th grade about "Columbus proved the Earth was round."