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> I say she deserves a beating if that was true. Just want to emphasize that sentence there.
Because you don't have a response other than to cherry pick sentences that sound bad out of context? Go right ahead, buddy.
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Here is the list (US only). * Domestic violence (men can't be the victim in eyes of public and law). * Divorces (70% initiated by women, child support calculated basing on one month of his highest income ever, women get the children). * Body integrity (circumcision anyone?) * Sexist sentencing (men get on average twice as high number of years in jail for the same crimes) * Education (man are lagging behind women in b…
You should probably read this article: http://jezebel.com/5992479/if-i-admit-that-hating-men-is-a-t... Specifically, this part from the bottom of the article: Feminists do not want you to lose custody of your children. The assumption that women are naturally better caregivers is part of patriarchy. Feminists do not like commercials in which bumbling dads mess up the laundry and competent wives have to bustle in and f…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80>> We are not the 'nice feminists' of this community. > Being nice doesn’t work. We’ve been nice. In this article you were actually all nice and I read right to the bottom. I certainly do find it a lot easier to listen to and agree with people that aren't spilling hatred at me. I never want to feel like I'm giving time to somebody trying to extract some psychological harm as revenge on my gender - whether or not they…
>I don't think all men are out to get you. I also don't think there's a huge misogyny problem in the industry in comparison to some other industries and cultures I've mixed with. (Perhaps my bad luck.) This is my opinion from listening to the perspectives of the people around me and watching their behaviour around women. However I do think we have a significant diversity problem and that it's altering the interaction…
Are you characterizing people who identify as "feminist" as jerks here? Perhaps you should reconsider your phrasing. And consider how "hold no bias" you sound when you say something like that.
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There is no "ultra-feminist movement"; feminism is an umbrella term for a multitude of movements across time and geography. Each movement is understood within a context, and some take more time to understand than others. I would suggest the book Gender Inequality by Judith Lorber as a starting point.
Yes there is - radfem (which "ultra-feminist movement" would descrive) is a movement within third wave feminism.
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I see you've found the strawfeminists. http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341 HSSSSSSSSSS!
> Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman. Our Blood by Andrea Dworkin, 1976 It's not a strawmyn when it's based on reality. Not all feminists, not even all radical feminists espouse views like this, but they exist and to brush them under the rug impedes meaningful discourse.
I don't think anyone is denying Andrea Dworkin exists. I think people are denying that she's relevant to this discussion, except as a way to keep blaming women.
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You won't see most of these incidents, because harassers do it when there are few witnesses. Ask your female colleagues for their stories. They all have them. So how does this fit with your "Most of the engineers I know in tech are decent, upstanding guys." - it fits perfectly. Clearly you know some who aren't decent. It only takes one to harass, and he can harass a large number of women; in fact the pattern is commo…
I am one of the contributors to the parent article. We mention a whole slew of 'what happens when you report harassment' incidents: - http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/12/4693710/the-end-of-kindnes... - http://archive.today/20130110113908/jolieodell.wordpress.com... - http://blog.nerdchic.net/archives/705/ - https://medium.com/@geeekcore1/d96f431f4e8e - http://borderhouseblog.com/?p=5698 - http://www.feministfrequency.c…
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We already understand the roots of the problem quite well... comparing to other industries won't make much difference. 1. Male-dominated environment, women are a significant minority. 2. Inexcusable tolerance of sexist behavior - not calling it out when we see it. 3. "Why are you blaming me? I'm not one of those guys. Men might listen to you if you'd just stop the blanket accusations." (extra credit: count how many c…
it should be noted that pointing out #3 doesn't make it an invalid point, and it certainly has nothing to do with why the issue exists in the first place.
1. More men than women
2. Male harrasers feel safe to harass women
3. Women do not feel welcome
4. Women leave
5. Goto 1
Or:
1. Harassers target women in ways that are deniable and/or less visible
2. Well meaning men assume that if they if don't see it, it must not be happening very often
3. Women get tired of having their personal experiences questioned, denied, dismissed, and belittled
4. Women stay silent, or leave
5. The impression among bystander men that this must not happen that often is strengthened, emboldening harassers
6. Goto 1
Etc.
Given that, it is entirely fair to say to non-harrasser men that if they are not actively part of the solution, they are still pàrt if the problem.
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There is no "ultra-feminist movement"; feminism is an umbrella term for a multitude of movements across time and geography. Each movement is understood within a context, and some take more time to understand than others. I would suggest the book Gender Inequality by Judith Lorber as a starting point.
Yes there is - radfem (which "ultra-feminist movement" would descrive) is a movement within third wave feminism.
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I think expecting a male to put himself at personal risk for a women who won't put herself at personal risk is unfair. We have no context, we don't know if the person in question doing the injustice was superior in the company, or not. All we know is person A did something bad to person B, and person C did nothing about it. Why shouldn't we ask my person B did nothing either?
Because there is a power imbalance.
That's not equality, and I would defend anyone who stays quiet in such circumstances. Don't ask the random male to go to bat for you if you're not willing to do it yourself. Common sense.