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GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Post by tzs »

spenvo wrote: post #238
spenvo wrote: post #172

-- Top comment on Reddit [0]: 'This clearly violates both EU and British law. It's simple: Parliament and the CPS can no longer ignore GCHQ's abuses and the entirely inadequate 'oversight' regime of the Intelligence and Security Committee. Brooks et al. go on trial for allegedly hacking celebrities' voicemail messages, but Cabinet ministers walk free after approving secret suspicion-less dragnet recording of millions…

DanBC has the better comment (currently below this one) - I'm not qualified to respond, but it deserves one. Upvote him. I just wanted to point out that (from their mobile sites) I couldn't find a single story about this on CNN, FoxNews or MSNBC. (4:36pm CST) Last time I made a fuss about the media I had Godwin's law and Occam's Razor cited in replies/counters as why bias in the press is purely organic in nature. As…

> I just wanted to point out that (from their mobile sites) I couldn't find a single story about this on CNN, FoxNews or MSNBC. (4:36pm CST)

At the time of your post, CNN and MSNBC had it. Fox got it around the time of your post.

You probably missed it because it is common for major news organizations, both inside the US and those outside, to actually maintain separate views of the news for their domestic visitors and their international visitors.

The domestic view assumes that you are interested in mostly domestic news, and only want to see the top international stories. The international view assumes that you are interested mostly in world news, and only want to see the top domestic stories.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Post by thesimpsons1022 »

gaius wrote: post #240
w_t_payne wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is no accident that socially conservative ideologies are correlated with right-wing / authoritarian politics. It is such an age-old instrument of manipulation and control that I am tempted to believe that it is innate and ingrained into our biology.

It is no accident that socially conservative ideologies are correlated with right-wing / authoritarian politics Now you are just being silly. The USSR sent homosexuals to the gulags. China considered homosexuality to be a mental illness up 'til 2002, it is only when they started to become capitalist that they relaxed! In the UK it is the right-wing Tories that are bringing in gay marriage. Attitudes towards homosexua…

the ussr was socially conservative.

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Post by pdkl95 »

StefanKarpinski wrote: post #43
davepage wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because for political purposes, a compromising photo has far better blackmail value than other data.

But you can't use that blackmail tool without revealing that you were spying illegally. Revealing that would be worse for the blackmailer than the blackmailee.

LOL That would only be true if they were willing to break the law (by blackmailing somebody, yet felt the strange need to making a legal accusation.

It's very hard to defend against institutional blackmail. The blackmailer just has to make their demands, that need to be followed "if you known what's good for you". Generally, that will work and no further steps are necessary.

If somebody decides to resist the demand in any way, you simply place some of those pictures of underage kid - perhaps from the project mentioned in this article - and place a "tip" with the local police. Of course, they could always "parallel construction" it. Many options there, because you never actually have to show real evidence in court, or even show up. You just have to get the ball rolling, and the child-porn accusation will do the rest for you.

In fact, it's important to make a big show about it, because coming down hard on the occasional person that questions your demands serves as an excellent way to discourage other from trying.

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Post by glasz »

spenvo wrote: post #238
spenvo wrote: post #172

-- Top comment on Reddit [0]: 'This clearly violates both EU and British law. It's simple: Parliament and the CPS can no longer ignore GCHQ's abuses and the entirely inadequate 'oversight' regime of the Intelligence and Security Committee. Brooks et al. go on trial for allegedly hacking celebrities' voicemail messages, but Cabinet ministers walk free after approving secret suspicion-less dragnet recording of millions…

DanBC has the better comment (currently below this one) - I'm not qualified to respond, but it deserves one. Upvote him. I just wanted to point out that (from their mobile sites) I couldn't find a single story about this on CNN, FoxNews or MSNBC. (4:36pm CST) Last time I made a fuss about the media I had Godwin's law and Occam's Razor cited in replies/counters as why bias in the press is purely organic in nature. As…

come on kids. media is embedded. it's called "operation mockingbird".

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Post by mindslight »

thisiswrong wrote: post #267
mullingitover wrote: post #194

The way these disclosures keep building in severity, it almost makes it seem like Greenwald et al are preparing us for some truly horrific news. Something along the lines of, "NSA and GCHQ have been using their agencies' resources to alter the outcome of elections."

Why would they need to do that? The mainstream media's role is to make people politically apathetic and scared of terrorists™.

Even though the outcome won't make a difference for the general population, the individual parties are still competing against one another for who gets the power for this term.

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Post by rdtsc »

dandelany wrote: post #268
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is this true ?! Any evidence? Is there a page on whitehouse.gov with F R Smith - foot fetish (moderate), would like to be a Gimp but never found the right owner.

Yes it's sort of true - the concern here is about being susceptible to blackmail or coercion, which rules out pretty much anyone who has a personal secret which they feel ashamed about or would go to great lengths to keep secret. If you're gay and out, there's no security concern, but if you're in the closet, there is a chance someone could find out and blackmail you into revealing secret information. This also appli…

Same thing. Image you are Iran. If you have 10 people to pick from to bribe and ask to work for you. Pick the one with largest dept and offer to pay that debt in return for co-operation.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

_ls7m wrote: post #261
acqq wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the next sentence said by Jesus himself, confirming the law of the prophets: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished." I don't see heaven and earth passed away, so the laws of the prophets still hold according to Jesus himself. He said that. Written one sentence after the one you quote claiming th…

You're correct, the law has not passed away. The requirements of it have been fully met (fulfilled) by Christ. By submitting our lives to Christ, his perfect fulfillment of God's law is credited to us, thereby freeing us from the penalty of the law. This is obviously off topic from the original post, but hopefully it's a valuable conversation. It's actually a really important point that is reiterated throughout the N…

The requirements of it have been fully met (fulfilled) by Christ.

Last time I checked, heaven and earth were still here.

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Post by madaxe_again »

spenvo wrote: post #172

-- Top comment on Reddit [0]: 'This clearly violates both EU and British law. It's simple: Parliament and the CPS can no longer ignore GCHQ's abuses and the entirely inadequate 'oversight' regime of the Intelligence and Security Committee. Brooks et al. go on trial for allegedly hacking celebrities' voicemail messages, but Cabinet ministers walk free after approving secret suspicion-less dragnet recording of millions…

They most certainly can and will continue to ignore this. They will only pay attention when the apparatus is borne down on them - which won't happen because 99% of the UK population think surveillance is a great thing, and think you're a traitor for even daring think about it.
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