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Post by mojowo11 »

mjburgess wrote: post #236
grellas wrote: post #229

A word about credibility. It comes from the Latin word credo , meaning "I trust." Its value exceeds that of money because it marks you as a person - as someone who is respected, who is trustworthy, and whom you would want to count as a friend. It marks you not as perfect but as special. It makes others ponder not so much that they did the last deal with you but that they would want to do the next deal too. Just as we…

Fine, he was mischaracterized and he replied. But jesus, > pg's response is actually priceless: it is like a soft-spoken witness upending a bullying lawyer who had just viciously attacked him, leaving the attacker reeling for all to see. What's with the almost cult-like reverence for this largely pseudo-intellectual entrepreneur?

Most of the reverence for this guy (regardless of whether you find it pseudo-intellectual or not) can probably be explained by the fact that Paul Graham is a co-founder of Y Combinator, and you're on ycombinator.com.

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Post by Dewie »

xs_kid wrote: post #228
yawn wrote: post #26

Jakob Kaplan Moss owes PG a public apology for his behavior. The witch hunt tweets that were coming out of him without getting the facts straight are downright disheartening.

You don't have idea about what is a "witch hunt" and using that metaphor to describe some tweets is very insensitive and softens the absolute horror of people killed in real witch hunting. Do you know that witch hunt still being a thing in some countries of the world?: http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/ARTICULO-WEB-NEW_N... (title translated: Woman accused of being a witch in a town in Antioquia was burned) T…

I'm offended when people say that enduring something was "hell". It is disrespectful towards people who are burning in Hell.

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Post by squirejons »

CorpGovMedia hath given unto thee Laws to Live By. And so it is written that thou shalt not denigrate females, but that thou shalt elevate them above all others, for the females are The Most Sacred Consumer and Surplus Labor Supply, thus lowering wages and increasing The Most Sacred Corporate Profits.

And All Those Who Violate This Law Shall Be Marked "B" for Bigot. And Know Ye Well That Those Who Wear This Mark of B Shall Be Cast Out of Society and They Shall Be Demonized Forever....

Know Ye These Laws!

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Post by aaronem »

klipt wrote: post #269
aaronem wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seem to remember hearing that the final score in Salem being nineteen women and one man. Given this data, trivial statistical analysis tells us that the use of "witch hunt" in this context is 95% sexist, a value well within the margin of error.

Only if you ignore all witch hunts outside Salem. That would be incredibly US-centric. Bertrand Guilladot and Louis Debaraz come to mind. Anyhow, that completely misses the point - that witch trials were based on a presumption of guilt against which no defense could be made. Much like the way certain media sites attack people.

Literature review and meta-analysis seemed out of scope, considering the comment to which I replied. (And I seem to've fallen into the HN trap of being too straight-faced about a smart-assed comment.)

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Post by reeses »

dylandrop wrote: post #259
grellas wrote: post #229

A word about credibility. It comes from the Latin word credo , meaning "I trust." Its value exceeds that of money because it marks you as a person - as someone who is respected, who is trustworthy, and whom you would want to count as a friend. It marks you not as perfect but as special. It makes others ponder not so much that they did the last deal with you but that they would want to do the next deal too. Just as we…

Can we lay off the cheesy deification of PG? He was called a sexist, and he responded well. He is not a paragon of society, he is simply someone who is very good at tech and making money. And he is probably a good person too, but come on, this is just silly. On a second note I'm also curious as to what exactly you're referring to when you say he has the credibility that should make us know that he isn't sexist. I'm n…

"On a second note I'm also curious as to what exactly you're referring to when you say he has the credibility that should make us know that he isn't sexist. I'm not saying he is sexist, I'm just saying that all of his credibility lies in making good business decisions, not gender relations."

I agree. This willful blindness to bias and prejudice because smart people are not biased or prejudiced prevents us from examining our thoughts and behavior.

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Post by ionforce »

lauradhamilton wrote: post #39

Thanks for the clarification. It is unfortunate that your statements were taken out of context and spun. I typically look for the original source, and am relatively skeptical of poorly edited viral stories such as this one. With that said, I do think that the moderation / upvoting / flagging of Hacker News is overwhelmingly male. I sometimes see sexist comments here, and there doesn't seem to be a good system for wom…

Why are you linking someone's gender to the ability to flag and remove sexist comments? Are you saying that women are allowed to make sexist comments about men?

Sexism is everyone's problem, regardless of gender expression.

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Post by aaronem »

iamjustin wrote: post #268
aaronem wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I seem to remember hearing that the final score in Salem being nineteen women and one man. Given this data, trivial statistical analysis tells us that the use of "witch hunt" in this context is 95% sexist, a value well within the margin of error.

21 were executed, 6 male. Regardless, in common use, when someone uses the term 'witch hunt', it's gender-neutral.

Citizen, surely you need no reminding that so-called "gender neutrality" is merely a sexist excuse for the ongoing structural oppression of women and gender-fluid individuals.

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Post by freyrs3 »

xs_kid wrote: post #228
yawn wrote: post #26

Jakob Kaplan Moss owes PG a public apology for his behavior. The witch hunt tweets that were coming out of him without getting the facts straight are downright disheartening.

You don't have idea about what is a "witch hunt" and using that metaphor to describe some tweets is very insensitive and softens the absolute horror of people killed in real witch hunting. Do you know that witch hunt still being a thing in some countries of the world?: http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/ARTICULO-WEB-NEW_N... (title translated: Woman accused of being a witch in a town in Antioquia was burned) T…

> you don't have idea about what is a "witch hunt"

witch hunt (n): the act of unfairly looking for and punishing people who are accused of having opinions that are believed to be dangerous or evil

Sounds like proper usage of the word to me.

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Post by Dewie »

Perihelion wrote: post #273
Dewie wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things like this can ruin lives (this according to you), yet you seem to write about this as if it is a simple attitude problem, in need of a "change in mentality" like being more reflected and aware of one's biases, and not (also) a matter of self preservation on his part.

No, I recognized that this is a self-preservation tactic and (thought) I implied I wished it weren't needed. Please read some of the other things I said -- I'm actually on the same side as him.

> No, I recognized that this is a self-preservation tactic and (thought) I implied I wished it weren't needed.

This seems to contradict when you previously wrote that it is up to him, and him alone, to change his behavior, when here it seems to be actually a needed tactic bourn of forces outside of his control. Allocating 50% blame doesn't seem terribly sympathetic, either.

But never mind, I have probably nitpicked more than my fair share for today.

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Post by roopeshv »

DasIch wrote: post #100
yawn wrote: post #26

Jakob Kaplan Moss owes PG a public apology for his behavior. The witch hunt tweets that were coming out of him without getting the facts straight are downright disheartening.

His behavior was perfectly fine unless you assume that the "interview" as published was wrong. We now know it isn't and the facts have changed. I doubt he would have tweeted any of it, if he had known this.

you should see his current tweets
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