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Choosing Hong Kong Is a Brilliant Move by Edward Snowden

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Re: Choosing Hong Kong Is a Brilliant Move by Edward Snowden

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Post by foobarbazqux »

prollyignored wrote: post #70
foobarbazqux wrote: post #56

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Yeah, the greatest accomplishments in history are often linked to narcissistic personalities, generally because the person needs to prove something to the world to make up for their secretly poor self-esteem.

Please don't think that I am trying to correct you. But narcissism has nothing to do with our Snowy. It's inception, by brute force. What Bob is doing is, he is compressing the issue to a trifle. It's the reporter equivalent of calling "LOL OP, you are such a short sighted faggot" and receiving precious HN karma for it. When you can't win a debate, you win by stinking it up and making others leave. That's how trolls…

All I meant was it seems strange in the first place to use narcissism as an argument to attack somebody's work.

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Post by anigbrowl »

Ygg2 wrote: post #213
anigbrowl wrote: post #100

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I don't know whether to be amused or depressed by the ahistorical ignorance of your comments. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee

True, history hasn't been my strong side, but I don't see how Watergate is relevant? The difference in technology (between now and then) is huge, since our lives have migrated more towards the Internet. Before the wiretapping could only go so far. You needed to install wiretapping in a room (phones could always be bugged). Now wiretapping is everywhere. You literally carry the equipment for others to wiretap you (mob…

'Wiretapping' means bugging your phone, by definition. You tap into the phone wire.

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Post by grandalf »

cwp wrote: post #157
rayiner wrote: post #150

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As long as you don't care about the whole democracy thing.

Well, it sounds like their system is the polar opposite of the US: they can't choose their government, but it does what the people want.

We in the US tend to underestimate the power that populations have even if it's not explicitly linked to voting.

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Post by notahacker »

kragen wrote: post #231
anigbrowl wrote: post #92

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For rape, not espionage.

Does Sweden frequently issue international arrest warrants for rape suspects?

Yes. What sort of weird country doesn't issue international arrest warrants for rape subjects just because they're a political figure?

Re: Choosing Hong Kong Is a Brilliant Move by Edward Snowden

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Post by diminoten »

nemof wrote: post #247
D_Alex wrote: post #161

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Dunno about "free", but what really bothers me is that someone decided to seek asylum from the US. US used to be the gold standard in democracy and justice.

The US has only ever been the gold standard to itself, it's a nice story to tell the kids as you tuck them in for the night, but it's just not true.

The US doesn't ban hate speech at least, so in that respect it's freer than a lot of other countries.

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Post by apu »

dylangs1030 wrote: post #186
rayiner wrote: post #81

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Its this sort of uneducated, a-historical crap that makes it impossible to read HN lately. If you think the government was less scary back then, in the grip of anti-communist paranoia, you're insane, deluded, or just plain uneducated. Saying that MLK could count on a fair shake from a justice system that didn't give any minority a fair shake back then, much less political radicals, is the height of ridiculousness.

Hey rayiner, if it helps at all, I frequently follow your comments on Hacker News, and I've been able to grasp all your (very cogent) examples of how the government was worse in the 20th century. So it's not falling on deaf ears. Just wanted to give some encouragement since you seem really discouraged by HN this week. It's been straining on the whole community, I think.

Strong agree (for both rayiner and tptacek). It's amazing how much abuse has been heaped on them for simply putting things into perspective, for questioning stories, for thinking carefully about what's actually being stated and claimed by various parties.

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Post by rayiner »

jessaustin wrote: post #288
rayiner wrote: post #286

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It's a hell of a lot better in the U.S. for these folks now than it is in China now.

The premise of this thread is that China is going to solve three giant intractable problems. That might take some time. When they're done, will over 40% of our male prison population still be black?

And my point is that even after solving those problems, China will still have a ways to go before it's even crappy at dealing with minorities like the U.S.

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Post by inportb »

D_Alex wrote: post #161
beachstartup wrote: post #133

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yeah to cut straight to the chase a special administrative region of the people's republic of china is actually more free than the USA.

Dunno about "free", but what really bothers me is that someone decided to seek asylum from the US. US used to be the gold standard in democracy and justice.

    US used to be the gold standard in democracy and justice.
The US also used to have a gold standard for currency.

Re: Choosing Hong Kong Is a Brilliant Move by Edward Snowden

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Post by mbillie1 »

notahacker wrote: post #294
kragen wrote: post #231

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Does Sweden frequently issue international arrest warrants for rape suspects?

Yes. What sort of weird country doesn't issue international arrest warrants for rape subjects just because they're a political figure?

I mean this in no trolling or sarcastic sense, but - I've never heard of an international arrest warrant for rape before Assange... maybe there hasn't been anything significantly publicized?
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