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Apple Reference Image is the new "pro" feature.
*not so "pro" in EU and China
Well it apparently is so "pro" that it got regulated out of existence.
iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
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Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
It will look like you took a picture of a screen or print out
People have constructed video walls so high resolution they can film TV series in front of them and to an audience it's indistinguishable from a real set. It's extremely cost-effective for things like space fantasy that needs lots of exotic-looking backdrops, apparently. It may not be in reach for you and I - but within reach of anyone with the budget to run a 'bot farm'
If they’re spending millions on faking an image, okay fine. That’s clearly not the security model intended for this feature though.
Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
#293I just want a MacBook with a cellular modem. Why is this not sold?
I would assume it's because most people just tether to their phone with a USB cable or wireless with two mouse clicks.
It's also because, until Apple's C-series models, they would've had to use Qualcomm modems which had a percentage-based royalty, and Apple would likely need a new contract for usage in Macs, so may had to pay even more. Even with their own modems they still have to pay Qualcomm's patent royalties, so it's likely just don't want to do that on devices which can cost over $10k today.
Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
#294Seems like at this point each year the biggest new feature is a new color.
It works with normies. My wife just preordered an 18 pro. She’s the family photographer and is still on a 128gb iPhone 12, so it’s time for an upgrade and she fell in love with the cherry color. She bought the 12 instead of the more appropriate 12 pro years ago because she loved the purple that she couldn’t get with a 12 pro. Edit:typo
> My wife just preordered an 18 pro.
I guess this is from a reseller, and not from Apple.
Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because I am buying a phone to use for the next 3 years and want to buy it based on the most important property of compute devices right now. I couldn't care less about the camera and the 13 random metrics that all look the same as every other camera announcement. I will happily take 96GB of RAM in my phone (and I know what that means) and would gladly allow you to make it 1.2mm thicker in the process.
What on earth would you do with an iOS device that has 96GB of RAM? You realize the last generation (i.e, the most powerful consumer phone in the world today) had 12 GB of RAM? You feel the need for eight times that amount?
> the most powerful consumer phone in the world today
According to what? (I don't disagree, just curious)
Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
#296I love that it has a feature to prove images came from the real world: > Users can now prove the authenticity of a photo taken on iPhone 18 Pro models with Apple Reference Image, powered by the new sensor in the Main camera that can sign every pixel it sees. When a photo is taken in the new Reference mode, the camera captures signed sensor data that Private Cloud Compute develops into an unalterable reference image.5…
Can't I just point my camera at an AI generated image? And it will get the stamp of authenticity?
Yes.
Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
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Stamp only proves you did the photo and probably some metadata like when where etc. It helps but doesn't solve credibility issue.
The credibility comes from who took the photo. The next logical and easy step is for this metadata to flow to the user agent. I'll know that it was taken by a legit journalist photographer. And id not, I can have my user agent make it fuzzy or replaced with a kitten photo.
Right. All of your pictures will include identifying information. Same will happen for LLM generated text.
Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
People have constructed video walls so high resolution they can film TV series in front of them and to an audience it's indistinguishable from a real set. It's extremely cost-effective for things like space fantasy that needs lots of exotic-looking backdrops, apparently. It may not be in reach for you and I - but within reach of anyone with the budget to run a 'bot farm'
If they’re spending millions on faking an image, okay fine. That’s clearly not the security model intended for this feature though.
How large and pixel dense does a display need to be for it to convincingly fill an image sensor?
I suspect it’s significantly less than millions.
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Yes, this is really a "Pro" feature, while C2PA exists, not many consumer products have it, iPhone will be the game changer for reporters.
Reporters who only capture pictures on an iPhone and not a "real" camera, and who also never need to edit the photo to crop off or obscure identifying information, innocent bystanders/victims, gory violence or nudity, etc... The problem is real, but this solution seems to not really solve it in any practical sense.
you could do edits like crops in a way that preserves the signature using ZK proofs
Re: iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max
#300The things we need to know most, RAM and Memory Bandwidth, are unfortunately missing from the release. Their absence doesn't bode well.
What do you do with your phone that requires you to know the memory details? Genuine question, I have absolutely no idea how much memory my iPad or phone have and don’t see why I would need to know
People who actually care about their money often like to compare competing products and decide which one provides them the best value.