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Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by yubblegum »

Barbing wrote: post #128
dawnerd wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

xcancel worked even when nitter had problems before. I imagine they're running a fairly custom version of nitter now with their own workarounds. Edit: I see it's not working either "Instance has been rate limited"

Might help that XCancel hotlinks media (pbs.twimg[.]com), should be a huge bandwidth reduction.

That actually leaked tracking back to twitter which is really the entire point of something like nitter. xcancel.com was always my last choice after nitter.net and nitter.poast.org. nitter.net was the only one without callbacks for scripts and media back to panopticon.

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Post by xvxvx »

Yeah, it’s connected to Nitter.

I had a number of bookmarked X accounts I would check in on via xcancel. I’ll keep them for now but I assume they’re done for.

I have zero desire to ever crate an X account. Keep closing doors, Elon, and watch usage drop even more than it already has.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by mmooss »

qzx_pierri wrote: post #289
jackb4040 wrote: post #114

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If we reflect on the debate from years ago about whether to nationalize Twitter, all the downsides we were warned about have come true. They censor / promote whoever the state wants anyways, the CEOs was literally in the cabinet for a time, but now they also have to enshittify and degrade the experience for the benefit of an also-ran AI lab.

All of the downsides you listed started with Jack Dorsey, and were significantly improved once Musk took over. X/Twitter still has its issues, though. I’d tell you to check out the “Twitter Files”, but it seems Wikipedia has been completely compromised. And I’m hesitant to recommend you read about it on Grokipedia (you’ll assume there is major bias), but it does seem to be the most accurate retelling of the scandal t…

> significantly improved once Musk took over

At a certain point it's just words; what makes those meaningful? Musk bans and limits distribution for people he dislikes or who criticize him, intentionally directs hate mobs, promotes hate and disinformation, ...

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by xvxvx »

droptablemain wrote: post #292

What's the point of such a service? It sounds like performative nonsense.

You need an account to access X. Change the URL to xcancel and you can view these accounts.

It also looks like X requires a Google or Apple account to sign up if you don’t use your phone number. I’m not linking any of that to the X cesspool.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by big_toast »

I don’t get why ai labs and staff didn’t move to Bluesky or something more open.

Grok searching across x/twitter is too valuable to ignore or silo.

X is effectively a high signal comment layer for the entire internet + quasi internet (arxiv) + real world.

Same applies to any data silo I suppose, X just seems more straightforward to beachhead.

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Post by nomel »

bee_rider wrote: post #122
naasking wrote: post #42

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Linking to X is less useful than it used to be.

IIRC you can’t even read a single post without an account, it is equivalent to posting a link to a private Facebook group or whatever from an outsider point of view.

This is incorrect.

You can see the last few posts of an account [1], and the contents of a single posts, but minimal or no comments [2]. Videos play after dismissing the login popup.

[1] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack

[2] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/2091983940609245467

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Post by DaSHacka »

orange999 wrote: post #273
fedpost wrote: post #227

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Everyone seems to be these days. Reddit has gotten much more militant over the last month or two

Twitter's been the worst about forcing you to log in. Before Elon, Twitter would give him some login reminders roughly every 5-10 minutes if you viewed the site while logged out. It was a little annoying, but it wasn't that bad, and you could get rid of the reminder by just clicking the x button. Now, under Elon, they force you to login to read any replies to posts. Currently, a person's 5 most recent posts can be vi…

> Reddit is now forcing people to login to view old Reddit. IIRC, old Reddit is posts that are from before 2009 or something like that. It's not that important of a loss in the grand scheme of things, but it might be the first step towards making the entire Reddit website login only.

It would have taken like 30 seconds for you to verify that this isn't correct. "Old reddit" is old.reddit.com, and is the old/original UI of the site. It has nothing to do with actual post age. If you visit any thread on Reddit, and replace the "www.reddit.com" with "old.reddit.com", you get the old reddit UI.

This UI is seen by many as much better than the current atrocious UI with the god-ugly ""snoos"", ads, "similar posts", and other cruft most of us don't want. They now require a login to use the debloated UI, as well as attempting to view any comments/threads over a VPN (even on new reddit).

At least Twitter lets you see the original post, even over a VPN (only hiding replies while logged-out), Reddit hits you with an obnoxious "woah there pardner! slow ur heckin horses down!" snoo image preventing you from seeing anything of the thread.

It annoys me to no end, as so many technical questions and support threads are now gated behind this restriction.

Twitter meanwhile, has little of value other than ragebait anyway.

Oh, and you could only save a Reddit thread with the old reddit link on the Wayback Machine. The regular www reddit links have JS required to fetch the contents of the thread, so every thread got saved as an empty page.

It's been that way for over like 3-4 years at this point, unless they've fixed it now that they've kneecapped old reddit (assuming it wasn't intentional in the first place).

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