I absolutely love the name!
Vomit: Clean up Claude 5's token output with a separate LLM
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly, it’s absurdly dense, it’s almost impossible to follow. An it always omits the subject of each sentence.
Ngl I think this is partially an artifact of it having a better grasp of English than almost everyone Frequently its choice of a particular word is perfect and gives me the vocabulary to talk about the task at hand the way I want Like it’s tuned to just be “maximally dense” instead of “dense/technical where you can handle it and simple where you can’t” It doesn’t know where your language strengths/weaknesses are, so…
Human explaining something: are you familiar with phlox gabrania? no? let me give you some background first
Claude explaining something: gedarkin load bearing phlox gabrania seam. Also, you didn't ask about cheesecake but let me tell you about phlox gabrania cheesecake woles.
Re: Vomit: Clean up Claude 5's token output with a separate LLM
#293From what I understand, it's a fundamental problem of how to use the ridiculous-but-effective reasoning prose behind the scenes, but get concise and coherent responses to the user.
You want the reasoning prose to be somewhat strange. It's not formulated for you to read, but for the model to loop back on itself. But the model still has to arrive at a deliverable answer, in a much different writing style than it reaons in, and the result is the overly flowery language produced by certain models.
Honestly, these models just need a humanizing stage at the end to compensate for the reasoning stage at the beginning, but that costs more tokens and increases the number of hallucinations.
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#294There's vomit on my sweater already, Claude's spaghetti.
Heads up, I've universally been downvoted here for humor. Telling, really.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
When were they ever anti-administration? I only remember them being anti- killer AI and mass surveillance.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ai-boss-trump-hates-beca...
That’s not anti-administration, it’s just a fact. Trump would treat them better if they bribed him like other tech companies.
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#298I'm sorry but the whining over LLM output styles is embarrassing. Do Claude and GPT models always respond in exactly the way my most articulate coworker would? No. The overused jargon is absolutely annoying. But these things aren't my drinking buddies, they're professional tools. It's not _literally unreadable_. It's just not ideal. Most of my tooling is "not ideal". That's okay. That's what I'm paid for. I just work…
I've had to read difficult things at work in my life, like C++ error messages, but I think Opus 5 is the first time I felt like I was being poisoned by my terminal. I keep having to leave and go use the office gym.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess my point is that when people are regularly reading dense and challenging material, they can absorb information quickly. It's a literacy gap. Nothing about Claude's output should slow anyone down who did the readings in their upper and higher education coursework, particularly if they continue to read to keep their mind sharp. Based on the examples of "inscrutable" text I've seen, I would be shocked if the ave…
If you really must have a counterexample, though I am afraid it will not reach you given your apparent stance about the other people, when I read Shakespeare I am constantly thinking of poetic ways to translate sentences and paragraphs into my native language (which, for the record, I consider to be great fun), yet Claude has been delivering the gibberish with increasing velocity, yes, even to me. That said, I must c…
It's a specific dialect of its own that comes from RL. Nobody on Earth talks about load-bearing honest caveat seams.
(Another strange thing about Opus 5 is that it will constantly re-mention things it thinks are important, probably a strategy to avoid losing them in the context history.)
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've noticed that most people seem to consider the core problem of Claude's output as "too verbose" but I don't think this actually cuts to the heart of the matter at all. It's almost, in some weird way, the opposite: like the text is far too _dense_. It tries too hard to invent odd terminology to try to condense stuff, but it doesn't tell you up front that it is going to call your company wide error-handling mechani…
yes, but how else would you know that "flare" was the load bearing part of that statement? /s
I'm going to argue to my boss that our KPI for the next quarter should be the number of load bearing seams discovered. I'll await the promotion.