Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

Post by cheikhcheikh » Sat, Aug 08, 2026, 2:59 AM UTC

TimTheTinker wrote: post #248

philipov wrote: post #236

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Rather than harmless, what the lawnmower analogy achieves is to make him seem blameless. "How can you assign blame to a thing that's just doing what it's built to do without any intent?" It's important to push back against that. Intent isn't a necessary condition for something to be dangerous, and so it's not necessary to ask whether it is intentional or not. A rabid dog will be put down regardless of who is to blame…

I think the point of the lawnmower analogy is to subjectively characterize Larry Ellison and Oracle from the viewpoint of someone who has had the unfortunate experience of having to deal personally with either of them in some way. You feel powerless against the machine, as it were, and the best course of action is to keep yourself far from the blade.

Post by latentsea » Sat, Aug 08, 2026, 3:12 AM UTC

TimTheTinker wrote: post #118

victorbjorklund wrote: post #77

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Not even a conspiracy theory. Just the most likely explanation.

"Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison. You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower. You don't anthropomorphize your lawnmower, the lawnmower just mows the lawn - you stick your hand in there and it'll chop it off, the end. You don't think 'oh, the lawnmower hates me' - lawnmower doesn't give a * about you, the lawnmower can't hate you. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmo…

Post by philipov » Sat, Aug 08, 2026, 3:20 AM UTC

cheikhcheikh wrote: post #291

TimTheTinker wrote: post #248

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I think the point of the lawnmower analogy is to subjectively characterize Larry Ellison and Oracle from the viewpoint of someone who has had the unfortunate experience of having to deal personally with either of them in some way. You feel powerless against the machine, as it were, and the best course of action is to keep yourself far from the blade.

I think you both are missing the point. Hes sayin larry is inhuman, hes closer to an apex predator or a serial killer freak of nature than your ordinary human

Post by semiquaver » Sat, Aug 08, 2026, 3:33 AM UTC

ethin wrote: post #170

henryfjordan wrote: post #169

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The courts are 100% going to have to interpret what is "sufficient human control" at some point.

Sure, but I would be incredibly shocked if the courts overturned these conclusions. These kinds of determinations are within the remit of the USCO, so a court does not need to come out and say it if the USCO has already done so. Obviously, as I said it would be better if congress weighed in and solved this problem, given that the USCO is free to publish a new NOI to change it's practices/policies, but we all know tha…

Post by theideaofcoffee » Sat, Aug 08, 2026, 3:41 AM UTC

TimTheTinker wrote: post #296

jerf wrote: post #73

Oracle, the law firm with a tech business attached, probably wants to retain the option to sue other people for AI-washing their proprietary code, and that doesn't work if they're also publicly accepting AI contributions to their code with no apparent concern for the provenance of it. The tech business would probably tell them this isn't going to be a needle they are going to be able to successfully thread, but the l…

What I don't understand is why anyone with half a brain would even venture to touch Oracle with a ten foot pole given that they've had this reputation for at least the last 25 years. Why, people?