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Not getting fired is not the same as isolation from consequences. People who make rational decisions and achieve results get opportunities to make more impactful decisions. People who don't get results don't get more opportunities - or maybe find themselves in a situation where the scope of their decisions (and blast radius) is limited. Firing is for misconduct or when someone has no value to offer. It's more of a sp…
> People who don't get results don't get more opportunities This shows to me that you have a lot of faith in these companies that I can't share based on my own experiences. My experience is more like: the defining characteristics of what gets you more opportunities is personal attachment to the boss. They like you? You get more. The whole performance review culture, as an example, is based around phony justifications…
Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors
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#292AI is pretty good at scaling existing knowledge, but if the actual knowledge is just in the head of an engineer who can hear that a press is acting up, the model doesn't really have much to go on
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#293Setting aside how shortsighted it is to fire your employees to replace them with AI, Ford also screwed up by firing the wrong employees. LLMs work best in the hands of experienced senior engineers who can work at a high level of abstraction because they already understand all the pieces underneath. In a sense, using an LLM agent is like providing instructions to a very smart, very quick junior who despite being brill…
Who says Ford fired any employees? The article doesn't.
This article may not mention anything but it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Go search "Ford Layoffs 2025" and see for your self
It's not up for debate whether they did or didn't lay people off recently. They unambiguously did.
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Generally, you don’t want to punish people for making decisions. At least I don’t. I value people who are willing to try things and I generally believe any decision made in good faith is better than no decision. My litmus test is was it a reasonable decision given the information available at the time in service of a greater goal. I can live with the consequences of that. If it turns out to be a not so great decision…
Even from the selfish perspectives of these executives, it can be quite bad to isolate people from the consequences of bad decisions. It will prevent learning from mistakes, and lead to more bad decisions. Which I guess is getting at another thing. The failure was predictable. People shouldn't be rewarded for failing to avoid obvious predictable failures. Maintaining their status quo could also be seen as rewarding t…
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#295Setting aside how shortsighted it is to fire your employees to replace them with AI, Ford also screwed up by firing the wrong employees. LLMs work best in the hands of experienced senior engineers who can work at a high level of abstraction because they already understand all the pieces underneath. In a sense, using an LLM agent is like providing instructions to a very smart, very quick junior who despite being brill…
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This idea is everywhere right now, that AI is some magic black box that will solve all your business problems. The sentiment is spreading through the exec team where I work now too. It's like a disease. C-suites completely disconnected from reality and assuming we've already achieved ASI/AGI, and marketing teams & business journals are only furthering that narrative. It's so weird. I don't know what it is about AI th…
"Line must go up, forever." These guys have squeezed out every cost and slack from their system. They've found the exact revenue-maximizing prices and segmentation for their products. They've cut quality to the point where customers will just barely not reject their product. They have used every legal and accounting trick at their disposal to keep that line going up. But, next quarter, line must still go up! The fina…
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I tend to feel like, I start out with a rough idea of a program I want to write in my head. I find it easier to just write the code directly than to write a document with sufficient detail about how I want it to work for an LLM to actually write the right code, then have the LLM write the code. And the resulting documentation is about as likely to be useless or a burden as it is to be helpful in the future.
You don’t write the doc. You talk to the LLM about the idea and the anchor points, and have it write the doc.
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#298There are two kinds of knowledge. There is explicit knowledge which can be codified easily in markdown files or a wiki. Then there is tacit knowledge which is mostly encoded in the experience of an organization's individuals. Explicit knowledge is like the tip of a giant institutional knowledge iceberg.
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#299For those of us who lived through the "Offshoring" Craze of the mid-2000s, this has the exact same arc. Corp CEOs / CFOs golf buddies coouldn't stop yapping about how much they saved paying people less by offshoring. So step 1, they fire a bunch of people and send work overseas, driving up their financial metrics for 5-6 quarters until their staff and their organization finally break at stage 2. Turns out cultural an…
You’ve hit on a big reason - short term gains. The partners at Accenture, Infosys and the rest circle the execs at old industry companies. The companies start performing worse, though nothing some accounting gimmicks can’t cover. Then they have a very bad quarter, enough that it will ruin their fiscal year. Fingers start pointing, and talk turns to “belt tightening” and “turning fixed costs to variable.” All of a sud…
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Why does it need to be symmetric? There’s no reason we couldn’t decide that we want to err on the side of employing too many people. We already do with legislation that requires severance packages and tax benefits for hiring. Many countries go much further.
If its not symmetric then you bias towards status quo which is a really bad way to act as a CEO. > There’s no reason we couldn’t decide that we want to err on the side of employing too many people. Yeah that's not how a company should run.
That doesn’t follow. It could just as easily bias a CEO towards over hiring, or finding ways to retrain existing employees, or any one of a million things that’s not the status quo.
It’s also possible that there currently exists pressure to push CEOs to lay off too many people and a little pressure in the opposite directions puts CEOs in a position where they are free to either layoff or hire as they see fit.
> Yeah that's not how a company should run
That should is attaching a moral judgement to this, and that’s not up to you. Many people think that the one of the primary purposes of a company is to provide employment. Even in the US our system makes it easier to hire someone than it is to fire them.