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Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

ginko wrote: post #209
gijsnijholt1980 wrote: post #195

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Agreed. Unrelated pro-tip: wearing them while riding a motorcycle. Reduces fatigue and transforms a rough experience into almost luxurious. Highly recommended.

Being able to hear your surroundings on a motorcycle or bicycle seems very important for safety to me. Filtering that out feels dangerous.

In the Netherlands they banned wearing earplugs/headphones on bicycles for this reason (as well as using your device). Whether that's enforced / enforceable is another matter though.

On a motorcycle you need hearing protection due to wind noise, but good plugs will filter out the louder noises, not so much important ones.

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Post by donohoe »

Anthony-G wrote: post #270
microtherion wrote: post #141

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Yes, I experienced this a number of times in my life. Growing up in a small Swiss village I wasn’t born in, I had to learn that you basically greeted everybody you passed in the road, under the assumption that you knew them or were supposed to know them (more conversations were not needed). Moving to a large Swiss village, I had to learn that saying hi to random strangers was considered weird at best. First time I vi…

Similar experience here. I grew up in rural Ireland in the 80s where you said hello to everyone but had a culture shock when I moved to Dublin for college. I quickly realised that you don’t greet everyone. I put it down to a being a matter of scale: in the countryside, it’s easy to say hello to everyone when you’ll usually encounter only a small number of people. It’d be impossible to say hello to everyone in a big c…

Oh, I’d forgotten about this! I never drive much in Ireland but was in the car a lot with my dad as a kid. When he’d visit family in Longford this was happening all the time - I just assumed everyone knew him!

Years later, when I’ve been driving and visiting the country, I found myself on the receiving end of this and it all clicked.

Thank you for this wonderful reminder.

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Post by jimlawruk »

> The number of spoken words uttered by the average person fell by 28% between 2005 and 2019

This effect started well before Airods and even smart phones became ubiquitous. The airpods were released in Dec of 2016. Before Blackberries and Iphones, people on the subway all had daily newspapers in their face. In DC we had a free abridged version called the Express.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by [deleted] »

timcobb wrote: post #251
t-3 wrote: post #233

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Deaf people manage to get licenses with no problem. My hearing was never tested to get my license, unlike my eyesight.

Deaf people have a lifetime of training (hopefully) and experience dealing with things like this in ways the are appropriate for their situation

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Post by asdfsa32 »

ekidd wrote: post #284
asdfsa32 wrote: post #273

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Strongly feeling a need to isolate yourself is not healthy and unnatural.

This varies enormously by where you live. I live out in the countryside. If I run into someone in the road, I will nod my head, maybe introduce myself, and maybe chat, if the other person is interested. (To be fair, I know about 80% of the people I see in the road.) This is normal behavior. Sometimes, two cars will pass each other and stop to talk. I have also lived in the city. If a stranger wants to talk to me in t…

You're just taking the Western code of social conduct as "normal". Human interaction is completely normal and natural.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by [deleted] »

esperent wrote: post #269
psp99 wrote: post #237

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It is not illegal in every country. Further, wind noise and exhaust are too loud to hear anything anyway, so having music on and navigation is a bonus.

That's completely untrue, speaking as someone who drives a motorcycle every day, at least if you're not driving some horrible (to everyone around you) 500cc beast, you can hear things just fine. Especially horns, trucks, busses etc.

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Post by bambax »

tptacek wrote: post #5

I don't remember any time in my life where it ever felt normal to me to randomly talk to strangers. I went to London when I was a teenager and was made uncomfortable by how chatty the cab drivers were. Later, I worked at a startup and my boss was preternaturally gifted at chatting up strangers, which he did habitually in every setting we were in when we traveled; on the plane, on the bus from the airport, &c. I remem…

I don't like talking to strangers and I would consider myself rather introvert, although not extremely (I'm more of a misanthropist, maybe). That said, talking to strangers is really quite easy; I do it sometimes, esp. to entertain my friends while walking on a busy street. It's quite fun. It can happen that you plunge into deep conversations too, with someone you met just seconds ago!

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Post by asdfsa32 »

vitally3643 wrote: post #276
asdfsa32 wrote: post #273

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Strongly feeling a need to isolate yourself is not healthy and unnatural.

Just because you personally disagree with something does not make it a universal wrong. Thinking so is immature and unwise behavior.

For a non-solitary species that requires almost 2 decades for self-sufficiency, isolation is not a question of personal opinion, it is fundamental.

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Post by zamadatix »

asdfsa32 wrote: post #295
ekidd wrote: post #284

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This varies enormously by where you live. I live out in the countryside. If I run into someone in the road, I will nod my head, maybe introduce myself, and maybe chat, if the other person is interested. (To be fair, I know about 80% of the people I see in the road.) This is normal behavior. Sometimes, two cars will pass each other and stop to talk. I have also lived in the city. If a stranger wants to talk to me in t…

You're just taking the Western code of social conduct as "normal". Human interaction is completely normal and natural.

Isolating yourself in certain situations isn't the same as not having human interaction and sticking 10 million humans in a small area and expecting them to always interact with all of the others is in no way normal or natural. Sometimes interacting with ~100ish people (within an order of magnitude) over your month is natural. Too many is both exhausting and diluting of the meaning, too few is lonely and over isolating.

Re: The AirPods Effect

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Post by lelandfe »

ekidd wrote: post #284
asdfsa32 wrote: post #273

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Strongly feeling a need to isolate yourself is not healthy and unnatural.

This varies enormously by where you live. I live out in the countryside. If I run into someone in the road, I will nod my head, maybe introduce myself, and maybe chat, if the other person is interested. (To be fair, I know about 80% of the people I see in the road.) This is normal behavior. Sometimes, two cars will pass each other and stop to talk. I have also lived in the city. If a stranger wants to talk to me in t…

> If a stranger wants to talk to me in the city, either they're looking for directions (happy to help!), or they are deeply confused about appropriate social behavior in crowded spaces

A neat summary of the article.

Talk to the old fogies in said city and they will saddle you with complaints of how people used to say good morning, how are you doing, etc. It didn’t used to be this way. Alas, we probably won’t be talking to the old fogies either.

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