Im not trying to be weird... but as someone in Europe.... are we toast? no more AI access ever again?
All the other ones including the Chinese ones are still available.
Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models
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The reason is pretty obvious. Anthropic tried to play hardball with the government and now they are under their thumb for scrutiny of any and every little thing they do. That's what this admin is known for. If you do even what a normal person would think is sane but they don't like it, well now they need to make you bow down and break you so you "learn your lesson". It doesn't help that they themselves marketed this…
Previous administration was same way… intentionally not including Tesla in an EV summit
Give me a break with this. You are not so thick as to think the two things are remotely comparable.
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Wait until you hear how many families could survive on the food you throw away
Yeah but that's a distribution problem, not a production one. The starving Africans line didn't work on me as a kid. (tongue firmly in cheek)
The gas wasted transporting food that's getting wasted would probably make a huge dent in the problem too.
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#294Im not trying to be weird... but as someone in Europe.... are we toast? no more AI access ever again?
In my experience, the US finds it very hard to say no to money. It's basically their Achilles' heel. Europe is a very large market. Also TACO.
However: We do also need to build our own options for resilience against chaotic US leadership.
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#295It’s unclear what Jassy’s angle was here doing this. It’s pretty bad news for Anthropic though. They had built up some real momentum but am waking up this morning to nearly everyone I know outside the US shifting use off Anthropic. There is no loyalty or revenue stickiness here. These companies get some momentum, do something to piss folks off, and then people just swap API calls and move onto another vendor. It’s a…
But this doesn't just show that Anthropic is bad news, but essentially that every US based LLM provider is as well. This current administration is making completely random, wild decisions with entirely opaque reasoning.
It's certainly worse news for Anthropic than other labs since it's not completely random, and there's people in the administration (e.g. David Sacks) who don't like Anthropic -- perhaps seeing them as an enemy
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>The reason is pretty obvious. Anthropic tried to play hardball with the government that is one. Another is who is going into the first IPO. Troubles for Anthropic IPO would channel all those money into OpenAI's one. Check financial interests of this admin. Hint - they aren't with Anthropic. Third - most of the export and access controlled tech of the past wasn't productivity multiplier, nor human replacement. AI is…
Alternatively, this is the best advertising for which Anthropic could hope: "Our product, and nobody else's, is so good that the government declared us a threat to national security." If they bring it back for US-nationals only, maybe demanding ID for users, people will think it's the bees knees: "so dangerous that non-Americans can't have access" probably sounds like a ringing endorsement to some C-level decision ma…
> Crowdstrike took down airports in July 2024, and its stock was back up by October; it's double the price now. Everyone saw how systemically important it was and how it took down entire industries, and they asked why they weren't using it themselves if it's so important. See also the 2025 cloud outages.
Truly, too big to fail. Capitalism is broken when companies aren't punished but rewarded for screwing up. What point do stock markets serve when bad behavior has no incentives at all to be prevented?!
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#297Given Amazon's fairly large equity stake in Anthropic, I really don't get their motivation. Anyone care to speculate?
they figured out taking fable off plans at 22/6 was a bad idea business wise so they maneuvered
I'd guess it's absurdly good business wise, given API pricing is like 10-30x as much
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One infringes on a specific constitutional right. Also, this country would get even more dangerous without good citizens owning guns. IMO it's like herd immunity. Not everyone has guns. But the criminals don't know who does and who doesn't, so in a way they treat all homes as potentially being armed. Our criminals are already pretty care free, I can't imagine how much worse it would be if they KNEW no one was armed.
I'm not American so maybe I'm missing something, but doesn't the Constitution apply to all citizens? Is it not then unconstitutional to prevent federal inmates from possessing firearms while incarcerated?
Not all citizens have the right to freedom: "except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted"
https://www.senate.gov/about/origins-foundations/senate-and-...
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason is pretty obvious. Anthropic tried to play hardball with the government and now they are under their thumb for scrutiny of any and every little thing they do. That's what this admin is known for. If you do even what a normal person would think is sane but they don't like it, well now they need to make you bow down and break you so you "learn your lesson". It doesn't help that they themselves marketed this…
It is important to note this formula doesn't require understanding any subject. People keep seeking logic where there is non. We have an internet full of theories assuming there is more to it.
I mean the logic is simple but people don't want to admit it, you must pay the vig if you want in on the action. Before this type of naked corruption would take the form of boardroom seats/book deals/speaking gigs after you leave office but now it's more open so others will take note.
It also helps if you bust a few kneecaps in the process to show what happens if you go astray.
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#300I still am struggling to understand why they informed the government about something that is known to be an issue in every LLM. There is no LLM that cannot be jailbroken, so unless this means that we have reached the absolute maximum publicly accessible US made LLMs are allowed to operate at with GPT 5.5, this is not grounded in any sane regulation attempt. Does anyone know what limits Fable 5 has overstepped in the…
The simple answer is that Trump has a stick up his ass against Anthropic and is also fond of stock market manipulation. No need to get too deep when it comes to dealing with that orange shmuck.
This is just another shakedown like with Tylenol etc, knock the product, lower the stock price and have a competitor hostile takeover, or get kickbacks