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Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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That sounds like a lot, but your music player probably costs that much in RAM anyway. Seriously, with the current RAM prices we as an industry have to figure out a way to use less of it. Laptops with 4GB of RAM are still common and are going to remain so for the rest of the decade. Spotify using more than 1GB of RAM is obscene.

Well we could start by not building ever gd app with f*cking electron.

To be pedantic, Spotify's desktop client uses CEF, not Electron.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Google is historically terrible as a product company (and has succeeded in spite of that) As their technical innovations become less of a moat (we're already there) they won't be able to win on engineering alone (they are no longer winning on engineering alone)

But Kubernetes, being a former Google project whilst donated to CNCF, is still one of the mainstream container orchestrator if not the biggest one (I believe we need to go over to supercomputers for that). Nomad is kind of dead and Apache Mesos is basically dead. Leaving Kubernetes as a natural moat, plus Google employees are still seemingly actively maintaining it. And also Go. While I'm not a Go guy (speaking as a…

Kubernetes makes me want to go running to WebSphere 5 XML configuration files (version 5 is relevant here).

Whereas Go only exists because a bunch of renowed Oberon and UNIX heads did not want to keep using C++ for their work, and got twice lucky, first with their line manager, secondly with Docker and Kubernetes getting adoption after their rewrites into Go.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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I didn’t get a screenshot of this, but I just found a really pointed example of Anthropics lack of craft / rush to build. If you open Claude on Windows, and click Dispatch (under cowork) to start that up, it will tell you that you need permissions windows doesn’t have. When you click the buttons for those permissions, it has broken links to macOS system preferences. I really encourage someone to try it and post the i…

Claude is entirely vibecoded and it shows

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Which products are outstanding in their categories? Gmail isn't outstanding, search isn't outstanding, maps isn't outstanding. They are all pretty par for the course. Google used to be outstanding... but I'm not sure of a single product they have that is outstanding (def: significantly better than the competition) anymore. On the other hand I rarely use any google products these days, so maybe I'm not the one to be j…

What's wrong with Maps?

What about showing tractor roads, military compounds, or farmer fields as roads I should be driving on?

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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If everything is in the cloud and you are just prompting agents to code for you, what exactly is “a developer machine”?

I'm obviously not just prompting agents for everything. What are you on about? Why would I build my little web-apps and backends in the cloud when I can run things faster locally?

Because timesharing is back, big tech only wants to sell terminals.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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It is surprising that the Claude web app lags pretty easily when using either chromium or firefox on ubuntu linux. Chats that delay my laptop work without issues on my ipad or iphone using the app. The web app is definitely a bit of a problem. IF there is a native app on desktop or if claude cli is much faster, i haven't tried them.

All of the LLM web interfaces have serious lag when typing after a few turns, at least on iOS safari. I’m talking seconds to start rendering input after typing or when it needs to line wrap the input.

The Codex app slows to a crawl after a few back and forths. In fact it’s so bad that I had to completely switch to CLI, where at least it’s the optimized terminal that takes care of the rendering rather than whatever monstrous electron scaffolding they use

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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They vibecoded it, and admitted as much. Once it was able to self-vibecode, that's all they did. That's why it's written in React and uses gigabytes of RAM as a chat client.

Not only did they decide to write a terminal application in React, but it's 500K lines of code. It's strange because I'm sure Claude is capable of writing a decent TUI in C. It says a lot about the engineering culture at Anthropic, at least on the software side.

And it would also be a sales pitch, their AI is so great that can write C code without any kind of security flaws, the future of systems programming!

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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I can’t reconcile the super intelligence koolaid with the objectively bad performance of Claude code. Surely they could have used their “too powerful to release” model to vibe better performance? with a few skills thrown in for good measure. Heck, even throw in an auto research loop

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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post #14

This all feels like a race where the model companies try to solve doing work locally in a way that doesn't suck, before the major operating systems companies figure out AI integration into their OS that doesn't suck. It also makes me wonder why Google which has both Gemini and Android can't figure this out, and if there are lessons to draw from that.

Because the framework and base is and firmware is freaking huge? You would need any AI hook on every setting/ action.

It seems easier to do just a screenshot and click.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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You're absolutely right that Gmail was the best webmail service when it launched, and for some time afterwards. How many people now commenting on HN remember when Gmail launched? Remember how revolutionary it was at the time? Every other email webapp, when you clicked on an email, would refresh the page. Gmail, when you clicked on an email, did not cause a browser navigation . It simply replaced the page contents wit…

Gmail spam filtering also used to be revolutionary and an unsung hero. I haven’t put effort into finding out if other options have caught up with that (because of aforementioned tedium of changing email addressed)

I have had a pobox.com email address (just a forwarding one) longer than I've had a Gmail one, and their spam filtering was pretty amazing too. Even before I set my pobox.com address to forward to Gmail, I never saw very much spam.

Now that Pobox is owned by Fastmail, I rather suspect that Fastmail is going to have the same good spam filtering. Can't speak from experience, though, as I haven't actually used my new Fastmail account yet (it still forwards to Gmail, and so far I haven't switched. Momentum, again).

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