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Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by mynameisvlad »

dangus wrote: post #221
mynameisvlad wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is transactional about a daily message for 14 days? Especially when you haven't made a transaction to trigger said message?

They clearly fit within the definition of transactional. They are part of the transaction and they are not an ongoing marketing mailing list. They end completely after 14 days. The author described them as "marketing" but did not disclose the content in any way.

A transactional message is something like "Thank you for signing up" or "Your password was changed" once per transaction. Hence, transactional.

Regardless how much they and you want to spin it, this is a 14 day marketing campaign. A single transaction (ie. subscribing) should not result in 14 emails sent. And certainly not one a day. By that logic I can send you unlimited emails because you bought one thing from me once and somehow consider all of them "transactional".

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by CommenterPerson »

dieselgate wrote: post #10
epistasis wrote: post #3

NYTimes is predatory on subscriptions. Over my long lifetime I've subscribed twice, and regretted it both times with intensity. Any place that allows easy instantaneous subscription by a simple web form, but makes you call and talk to a person during limited business hours for cancellation , is a toxic place. I've been told they have stopped this predatory practice due to some newly passed laws or something, but they…

I respect your opinion but am grateful for and find tremendous value in my NYT subscription. I share it with my SO and read their articles constantly. Prior to getting a subscription I was a "turn js off" kind of person - which is fine I suppose and still do it for other sites. I do not maintain any streaming or other subscriptions outside of Deezer (and a Garmin GPS FWIW). I would like a Bloomberg subscription but t…

I've read NYT regularly over the past 30+ years, and roughly fit in this boat. They have become monetizing addicts like everyone else. They keep showing pop-ups about "family subscriptions". I've written about their desperate seeming practices in comments on appropriate articles.

On their reporting, they want to appear to be objective but their biases are clear. For example, their campaign against Mamdani at all stages (it continues). They always have a couple of crazy "conservative" columnists. And so on.

I send all their emails to spam, and X out of the pop-ups. For now.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by TheTon »

wombat-man wrote: post #263

I cancelled recently because they really started hassling me more about account sharing. My friends, I do not share my NYT account. I have two computers at work, I have a number of personal devices. I don't know what number NYT thinks is normal for a person to have, but because I am over that number they were requiring me to login and enter in an OTP multiple times a day basically. Anyway, it finally got to me. I'll…

The number is as low as 2. Hell, it may even be 1! I have had a subscription for years, I do not share it, and I read on 2 devices, and they've been hassling me with this nonsense for the past week or so. I'm holding out hope it's just a bug and they'll stop, but if it goes on much longer I will cancel too.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by robot_jesus »

artursapek wrote: post #85
dieselgate wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I respect your opinion but am grateful for and find tremendous value in my NYT subscription. I share it with my SO and read their articles constantly. Prior to getting a subscription I was a "turn js off" kind of person - which is fine I suppose and still do it for other sites. I do not maintain any streaming or other subscriptions outside of Deezer (and a Garmin GPS FWIW). I would like a Bloomberg subscription but t…

You’re not responding to anything the parent said.

Parent comment urged everyone to cancel NYT subscriptions and the child comment respectfully disagreed and explained why they still find value. That seems like a very direct response. These aren’t formal arguments and rebuttals; just opinions. I appreciate hearing both perspectives.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by Ekaros »

darepublic wrote: post #16
epistasis wrote: post #3

NYTimes is predatory on subscriptions. Over my long lifetime I've subscribed twice, and regretted it both times with intensity. Any place that allows easy instantaneous subscription by a simple web form, but makes you call and talk to a person during limited business hours for cancellation , is a toxic place. I've been told they have stopped this predatory practice due to some newly passed laws or something, but they…

lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater

Only thing business understand is money. And they should be punished for their past malicious actions. Maybe in 100 or 200 years we might consider some forgiveness.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by Ekaros »

dangus wrote: post #48

Not sure what the author is bitching about. They’re a one-time series of email messages over 14 days. They are transactional emails. Maybe the author doesn’t agree with that but they’re welcome to take NYT to court over it. Is their email provider charging you per email or something?

No they should be explicitly opt-in. With big multi step warning messages. That is least you can do to valued customers.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by dieselgate »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #276
dieselgate wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I respect your opinion but am grateful for and find tremendous value in my NYT subscription. I share it with my SO and read their articles constantly. Prior to getting a subscription I was a "turn js off" kind of person - which is fine I suppose and still do it for other sites. I do not maintain any streaming or other subscriptions outside of Deezer (and a Garmin GPS FWIW). I would like a Bloomberg subscription but t…

Re: Matt Levine. You can sign up for his 4x-per-week email for free, and he doesn't spam you.

Thanks for this
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