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Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by pesus »

azan_ wrote: post #283
pesus wrote: post #279

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Go ahead and quit your job then, if it's worth it. It's for the greater good, after all, and you're more than ok with it.

People losing jobs is price we pay for progress, not goal in itself. I'm really surprised I have to point it out. Hence me quitting my job will have zero positive impact. Programmers for years have automated other jobs and suddenly when their work is in danger somehow automation becomes bad.

It would speed up the "progress" you so desire. But that's about what I'd expect. Turns out people aren't willing to back up what they promote when it negatively affects them, despite all the talk. Maybe trying to sacrifice the lives of millions of people so you can have a fancier chatbot isn't actually a good idea. Next time you suggest destroying society, try it out on yourself first and see if it's really worth it.

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by azan_ »

pesus wrote: post #291
azan_ wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People losing jobs is price we pay for progress, not goal in itself. I'm really surprised I have to point it out. Hence me quitting my job will have zero positive impact. Programmers for years have automated other jobs and suddenly when their work is in danger somehow automation becomes bad.

It would speed up the "progress" you so desire. But that's about what I'd expect. Turns out people aren't willing to back up what they promote when it negatively affects them, despite all the talk. Maybe trying to sacrifice the lives of millions of people so you can have a fancier chatbot isn't actually a good idea. Next time you suggest destroying society, try it out on yourself first and see if it's really worth it…

> It would speed up the "progress" you so desire.

Wait, how would it do that? I'm genuinely curious.

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

jdprgm wrote: post #90

I just checked amazon and I paid $350 in Nov 24' for 96GB (2x48GB) 6800MT DDR5 which at the time felt quite expensive and a bit of a splurge but I figured I had my DDR4 kit for almost a decade so probably similar lifespan for DDR5. That same listing is currently $1300!!! When RAM prices are increasing like a crypto currency we have a real societal problem.

I got 96GB of sodimm 5600MHz for $195 last April.

The destruction of computing is absolutely miserable to witness.

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Post by charcircuit »

Capricorn2481 wrote: post #278
charcircuit wrote: post #252

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It defends how you want to define success, but I would lean towards ChatGPT.

You would lean towards a resume that says "I learned from ChatGPT"? What does that even mean?

You don't have to literally say that. You just work in the skills you have acquired.

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Post by charcircuit »

pesus wrote: post #280
charcircuit wrote: post #270

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Teachers make even more up than AI in my experience. I would always trust an AI over a human teacher.

That's an incredibly depressing and anti-intellectual way to go through life.

I don't see it as anti-intellectual as in person learning is going to run into physical constraints of bringing together experts of individual subjects to a student. With the power of AI and the internet it is possible to bring such specialized knowledge directly to students where they are at.

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Post by jerf »

pesus wrote: post #280
charcircuit wrote: post #270

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Teachers make even more up than AI in my experience. I would always trust an AI over a human teacher.

That's an incredibly depressing and anti-intellectual way to go through life.

Thinking that teachers (or AIs) are always right is the anti-intellectual way to go through life. Between a teacher or an AI just going off of its training data is a close call; between a teacher and an AI doing a web search it's no contest, it's the AI.

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Post by greggoB »

azan_ wrote: post #276
greggoB wrote: post #264

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If that's how your comment was meant, it seems an odd reply to the parent comment, which is firmly critical of AI's impact on society, not really debating about the progress of the technology.

I suggest you read the parent comment again. The poster clearly was laughing at the capabilities of AI and its utility: > the value in having a personal assistant AI agent that can lie about the time for your appointment and autonomously delete your entire calendar

Sure, but 1) they're clearly being quite facetious with the above, and 2) it is also pretty clearly contextualised by the rest of what they said, which is making an equally sarcastic comment about how much AI is costing society.

The overall template is "look at how much we're giving away, but hey guess it's worth it for ".

Instead of immediately listing off whatever instance AI has shown some value in isolation, it might be worth considering its net effect on society as a whole. IMO that picture is not so rosy.

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Post by devilbunny »

caymanjim wrote: post #214
devilbunny wrote: post #76

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> even with my giant sasquatch hands, it's hard to reach all the buttons Did you find the OG Xbox "Duke" controller comfortable? I did. The Deck doesn't have the best layout IMO, but I don't have trouble reaching the buttons. > readable text on the tiny screen Definitely an issue, especially those over 40 - which, really, is sort of a major part of the expected market.

I've never touched an Xbox controller—or really any console controller since the early Nintendo days. What I find to require contortion is maintaining a grip on the Deck while operating the front controls without simultaneously squeezing the paddles on the back or having such a loose grip that I risk dropping the thing. The paddles on the back are one of my biggest problems with the grip ergonomics in general.

> or really any console controller since the early Nintendo days

Well, that alone could explain it. Lots more buttons and you have to find a comfortable grip that doesn’t hit them.

I always have trouble with controllers that have push-to-click-and-it’s-a-different-input joysticks. Too easy to do accidentally. But with the Deck you can reassign pretty much anything, so set them to do nothing.

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Post by tuesdaynight »

spwa4 wrote: post #288
tuesdaynight wrote: post #213

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Recently I had the realization that a lot of people see economy as something completely decoupled from society. Capitalism is both completely unrelated with people and the result of people's innate desires. The UBS discussions are a funny one for me. Capitalism is supposedly the best way to manage limited resources, but we would still need it in a supposed utopia where recourses are in abundance. I confess that I don…

> I confess that I don't have the knowledge to understand the reasons for that. You want the technical, mathematical, reason for that? The short version is that for society as a whole, prices are information. How many fields should be filled with grain plants? How many with flowers? How many factories should make cars? Phones? Tv furniture? How much fuel goes to heating? How much to transporting old people to the hos…

Thanks for taking the time to answer, I really appreciate that. About the pricing, isn't that the same as managing scarce resources? In a supposed AGI utopia, why would society still need it? To be clear, I get your point. I'm not against capitalism, I just don't get why it would be needed when resources are unconstrained
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