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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by js8 »

vidarh wrote: post #261
js8 wrote: post #181

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LMGTFY is an ironic jab, not a suggestion. > if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first It's actually the other way around. You should think what makes you feel they didn't make an effort? Why do you think I am asking - because I think you have a better answer than I can get from Google or AI. But this is where it's apparently going. We will all talk to AI rather than each other. And we will…

But this is often simply not the case - people will often ask for trivial things trivially found on Google.

IME it usually means they have some good reason to ask, which you are not aware of. For example, people might believe you are an expert or can give a better answer in the context.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by geerlingguy »

randallsquared wrote: post #232
js8 wrote: post #181

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LMGTFY is an ironic jab, not a suggestion. > if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first It's actually the other way around. You should think what makes you feel they didn't make an effort? Why do you think I am asking - because I think you have a better answer than I can get from Google or AI. But this is where it's apparently going. We will all talk to AI rather than each other. And we will…

> You should think what makes you feel they didn't make an effort? Long experience. There are a lot of people out there in the workforce who ask their boss or a more senior coworker a question the moment they think of it, with no attempt to find the answer via tools at their disposal. Maybe not as many as 80%, as implied by @sdoering below in a sibling thread, but quite a few.

Unfortunately this is true; and if you're not careful with your time, a lot can be wasted by people who realize "I can email so-and-so instead of putting in 5 minutes to finding the issue myself".

They're usually pretty courteous in their interaction, which makes it all the more difficult to be "rude", in my case, by adding an exponential falloff in response times - after I realize what's happening, I tend to take a little longer for each reply so they figure out it's faster to just do the research on their own most times.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by embedding-shape »

xen_relay wrote: post #214
wateralien wrote: post #53

One of the most amazing things happened during the day long power cut in 2025 in Spain and Portugal... eventually the cell towers went down and everyone just went to the parks and socialised. Connected with friends, strangers. Everyone was so in the moment because there was nowhere else to be, nothing else to distract them. People would pick up their phone and realise there was nothing there for them and put it back…

Lovely! I am all for an offline day in the year where everybody does what you described.

Plenty of these experiences can be found without disconnecting the electricity for multiple countries. Personally, I find musical events of all sorts are amazing for this, and completely AI free should you chose the right events :)

This weekend Liquicity came to Barcelona (for the first time?) and being with other strangers, dancing all night long, to other humans playing us music and singing and sometimes fucking up, is just an experience out of this world, and these sort of events are all around us, almost every week or at least every month. If not in your country, probably in your neighboring country, just a bus/train ride away.

You just need to take the steps and get out of your house, the human connections are out there and ready to be grabbed by the ones who dare and persist :)

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by alex_young » 

  Someone replied. It was the exact same text the AI had given me.
How would this happen? I thought most of these things used random seeds when returning responses. I understand similar, but exactly the same seems pretty odd if 2 people use the same prompt in 2 sessions.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by _heimdall »

torben-friis wrote: post #60

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

At least to me, this seems like a pretty logical progression based on how education is handled today.

We teach children from a very early age that there's always a right answer and that someone smarter/older/etc knows it. They're told to ask that person and largely memorize the answer for a test.

With LLMs we're being told they are, or will soon be, as smart or smarter than any human. Its no surprise to me that people with access to LLMs that can already answer a question would just blindly use it and trust the response.

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Post by Quizzical4230 »

torben-friis wrote: post #60

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

I have the same experience! When I asked someone for help, they (on my face), opened claude and started asking it.

I recount it here: https://blog.papermatch.me/html/Wheres_the_human_touch

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Post by saintfire »

dist-epoch wrote: post #274
ghoulishly wrote: post #242

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I’ve seen this at work and it drives me nuts. I don’t value my time extraordinarily highly but even still I find it disrespectful to offload my question and make me read something they didn’t even bother to read.

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Maybe they already did and the answer was in some way lacking so they asked a peer.

Being mentored is infinitely better than a text box spitting out subtly wrong answers.

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Post by juleiie »

Dilettante_ wrote: post #269
juleiie wrote: post #155

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Nothing feels quite as good as getting dumb and drooling literally. Being intelligent is painful, it’s the most painful state of existence. You see everything with mind bending clarity. The inane nonsense of it all No wonder the mind instinctively recoils and wants to smoothen itself For past ten years my life consisted mainly of desperately trying to be dumb and happy. AI is really good tool for that. Just outsource…

If you were so smart, you'd find a way to be happy that includes your intellect. Curbing the suffering by numbing yourself is seeking comfort in retreating to the local optimum instead of continuing to search for a better one.

That certainly must be very comfortable opinion to have. People truly love their illusions that allow to smoothly glance over giant uncomfortable spikes of reality under the balancing line of life. Otherwise we wouldn’t be able to function at all in this circus. We would just lie down in cave paralysed by dread, ending the homo sapiens brand of intelligence the moment it started
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