Charging port on the underside?
Ferrari Luce
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn’t realize it was an Ive creation. The asthetics make more sense now. It just doesn’t really make sense as a Ferrari. Ferrari makes super cars and this is kind a a run of the mill ev under the hood. The interior is very nice. The rest of Ferrari can hopefully borrow from this.
It sounds like the interior is the Ive part. It’s the outside I don’t like. I don’t hate it… just looks like it could be a Kia EV. If you’re goofy enough to buy a Ferrari I expect you want people to really have to see that you’re driving a Ferrari.
The outside looks like one of the Mustangs from the 90s with the round brake lights. Meh
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#293Ferrari Multipla
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#294Specs are insane but why does it look like a budget sedan with a cool paint job? This sounds kind of fun. It’s curious they weren’t allowed to drive though.. > But I can say that the Torque Shift Engagement system — which gives the driver five power levels on the right paddle and five engine-braking levels on the left — is one of the most intriguing ideas I’ve seen in an electric car. It doesn’t simulate gear changes…
> It creates an entirely new torque language controlled by the driver Oh wow, sounds like some corporation BS if I ever read some. My EV works by pressing the gas pedal and the torque is right there - not sure what revolutionary new invention is required?
Driving manual/stick is considered "manly" and a lot of sports car enthusiasts would never drive an automatic. So I presume this multilevel "torque language" bullshit is basically a way to retrofit stick shift into an EV that has no mechanical need for it.
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#295The Tesla Model S Plaid has similar horsepower (1020 vs 1035), more torque (1050 lb ft vs 730), faster 0-60 (2.1 vs 2.4s), higher top speed (200 vs 193 mph), more range (358 vs 280 mi). For roughly 17% of the price. And it looks the same. What an abomination! (You can probably find similar Chinese EVs that also outperform similarly.)
And the Model S is no longer in production due to poor sales. How many of these $650k family sedans could Ferrari possibly move?
Ah I see...
Apparently they're aiming to produce about 2500-3000 Luces (Luci?) a year, and they're building about 14,000 cars total annually. So not too many in keeping with their scarcity strategy. That has worked great for them so far, but I doubt they can replicate it with the Luce.
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#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think energy efficiency matters more with EVs, because it determines how frequently you have to charge on road trips, and more aerodynamic designs look a bit uglier.
Ferrari makes hypercars, they know a thing or two about making aerodynamics look good. It's a primary concern of all their designs and yet all their other designs look a lot better than this. I think they are just falling into the same trap all other manufacturers do at first. They think the customer buying the EV is a different customer, who didn't like their other cars. So they make the techno-future mobile for a c…
Legacy car manufacturers have done just that (forcing an EV into an ICE chassis). The results generally suck and the pure EV manufacturers like Tesla and BYD have kicked their ass in the market.
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#297I rather like the interior gauges and switches but the exterior of this car is....I have questions
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#298Looks like a car from "smart". Not too far removed from the smart #3.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn’t realize it was an Ive creation. The asthetics make more sense now. It just doesn’t really make sense as a Ferrari. Ferrari makes super cars and this is kind a a run of the mill ev under the hood. The interior is very nice. The rest of Ferrari can hopefully borrow from this.
It sounds like the interior is the Ive part. It’s the outside I don’t like. I don’t hate it… just looks like it could be a Kia EV. If you’re goofy enough to buy a Ferrari I expect you want people to really have to see that you’re driving a Ferrari.
Kia EV looks far better
by the time this depreciates the Kia might hold better value
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, but we're comparing the EPA ranges here, which is the point of them.
The point of the EPA ranges are to be misleading. The car manufacturers are well aware of what their vehicles achieve in real world usage. It would be trivial for them to give and prospective buyer indicative ranges for any particular geographical area.
You're missing the point.
The actual number of the EPA range is imaginary, yes. But it's useful for comparisons.
But if we're talking about comparisons between two vehicles, the vehicle with a 122kWh battery and a 280 EPA range will go less far and is much less efficient than the vehicle with a 84kWh batter and a 300 EPA range.