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DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by bryanlarsen »

gruez wrote: post #281
rvz wrote: post #275

While Anthropic, OpenAI and Google continue to charge an expensive amount of $$$ for in/output per million tokens and Microsoft complaining that AI costs more than hiring humans [0] and changes their pricing, it appears that Jevons paradox applies only to Deepseek. This is why companies like Anthropic are absolutely against you running your own models in the name of "safety" when what Deepseek is doing is racing ever…

>There is no moat in the model. What's the "moat" in giving models away for free? Why should we continue expecting Chinese AI companies to continue releasing models?

The article is about the pricing of the flagship non-free DeepSeek model.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by k1musab1 »

rvz wrote: post #275

While Anthropic, OpenAI and Google continue to charge an expensive amount of $$$ for in/output per million tokens and Microsoft complaining that AI costs more than hiring humans [0] and changes their pricing, it appears that Jevons paradox applies only to Deepseek. This is why companies like Anthropic are absolutely against you running your own models in the name of "safety" when what Deepseek is doing is racing ever…

They started with a well-timed sale right at the release of V4, when Anthropic was publically forced to admit they've been playing with the models in the background wasting peoples money, and Copilot pricing scheme changed pricing out top Opus models into higher tiers. DS sale got expanded to whole of May, as I'm sure they saw a trove of people feeding their tasks to them in parallel with their bad experience with Anthropic. This dynamic reaction to overall situation is refreshing to see.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by estearum »

3419ara wrote: post #273

I have no idea why people celebrate this. It is replacing one feudal lord by another. We don't need AI at all. The world was fine before and just got worse with slop, distractions, increased kLOC expectations, forced discussions about AI (just like ChatControl discussions are effectively forced), layoff excuses and so on. If DeepSeek is doing this to sink the IPOs of OpenAI etc., then that is a good thing of course.

Well it's not replacing one with the other. It's creating competition between them, which in so doing weakens each one.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by estearum »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #285
comrade1234 wrote: post #271

Reminds me of this parking ramp I used to use occasionally. I'd park for hours and when leaving the guy in the booth would tell me the charge and it would always be ridiculously low, like $0.50 or $1.00. Definitely not enough to pay for the guy to sit in the booth. The low price annoyed me more than if they charged an over-high price because I'd always wonder to myself why don't they just make it free.

IIUC, most parking lots are real estate plays -- the real money is in flipping the land; money made from parking tolls is gravy.

Land value tax fixes this

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by lot-xcvb »

idiotsecant wrote: post #279
3419ara wrote: post #273

I have no idea why people celebrate this. It is replacing one feudal lord by another. We don't need AI at all. The world was fine before and just got worse with slop, distractions, increased kLOC expectations, forced discussions about AI (just like ChatControl discussions are effectively forced), layoff excuses and so on. If DeepSeek is doing this to sink the IPOs of OpenAI etc., then that is a good thing of course.

How is it a 'feudal lord'? These are local models.

An API is a local model?

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing

"(3) The deepseek-v4-pro model API pricing will be officially adjusted to 1/4 of the original price after the 75% discount promotion ends on 2026/05/31 15:59 UTC."

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