Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK is proposing a law that will make it illegal to resell a ticket for greater than the face value. That honestly seems like a very pragmatic solution to me.
"Great news, gentlemen! We've made [drugs/gambling/guns/scalping] illegal! That problem is solved!"
Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans
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#292Honestly, this could turn out to be a really great thing. When artists become popular, they often complain that the people they are making their music for, their biggest fans, tend to be the people least able to afford the concert tickets. The artists are often totally willing to set aside a chunk of tickets at a much cheaper price, but they need to be able to guarantee that these tickets aren't just purchased by sca…
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#293Don't really get why people are saying letting ticket prices rise to the maximum of what the market will bear, even if it's unaffordable to most fans, is the only solution. I've been attending shows by a certain Japanese artist since 2009, and e-tickets have pretty much killed scalping without preventing transfer to a friend (though it is a bit more annoying to do). I suppose in theory some scalper somewhere could be…
How do these e-tickets work?
Mobile number => single human has limited number of accounts and there is a limit to how many tickets an account can buy.
So scalping does happen, but only a relatively small limited amount.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
Jesus. So mom1 now has two phones, just in case she gets sick and can't take the kids to the party. I stopped reading after that. I'm not sorry.
I was fine with the earlier method which doesn't need that. I only concocted an alternative to address your disgust with it! The ID verification part that you skipped is much more interesting anyway.
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't scalpers a solved problem with nominal tickets? I'm pretty sure some bands were doing this a decade ago. Even UEFA, among the most corrupt organizations in the world, does this for football tickets, you can buy 2 tickets and can change one name exactly once or sell them back to the organization. At this point if you allow scalpers it's a decision not a technical problem.
> ...you can buy 2 tickets and can change one name exactly once... Unless you're forced to buy exactly two tickets [0], I don't see how that prevents scalpers? Pay people 100% of their purchasing cost and -IDK- 5% of the scalping profit to use their name to purchase the ticket and hand over the creds to do the ticket owner reassignment. [0] In which case, I suppose it's a huge "fuck you" to people who aren't particul…
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#296For those against this: I'm curious to hear your take on how you'd stop/mitigate scalping.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK is proposing a law that will make it illegal to resell a ticket for greater than the face value. That honestly seems like a very pragmatic solution to me.
I don't know how naive the actual wording is, but fighting these kind of resells is an arms race. If for instance they allow reselling the ticket at the same price, processing fees could be exempted from that calculation. So charging the nominal price, but with enormous fees that go to the seller's pocket in a roundabout way will work. If processing fees are caped, the seller can request payment through a middle item…
Most courts will not convict your only for your actions but for the intention that fulfilled your actions. That's also why in most countries, murder and attempted murder will have the same consequences.
So you can hide your fees however you want, the court will interpret your intentions, and you'll have a hard time justifying your $250 processing fee for reselling a concert ticket.
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non-transferable tickets suck for their own reasons. Someone in a group gets sick or otherwise can't make it? Their seat is now either empty, or their ticket goes back to the pool. They can't give that ticket to someone else. That's a big deal for a whole slew of reasons. Let's pick just one reason and run with it. Five 11-year-old-ish girls want to go see Olivia Rodrigo. These kids haven't ever even been inside an a…
An actual transfer is needed when selling to someone you don't know/trust. But for the moms in your example, handing over the ticket just means temporarily handing over the account: share the password (assuming no password reuse habits), send over the MFA OTP, whatever it takes. It's not ideal, but it avoids the scalping that comes from more streamlined transfers; scalpers can't easily sell burner accounts if account…
Non-transferable tickets are bound to a specific name iiuc.
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#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK is proposing a law that will make it illegal to resell a ticket for greater than the face value. That honestly seems like a very pragmatic solution to me.
Seems like that would be an easy thing to bypass. Include a free ticket with some overpriced merchandise. £600 for a T-shirt, but you get a free ticket with it.
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#300Honestly, this could turn out to be a really great thing. When artists become popular, they often complain that the people they are making their music for, their biggest fans, tend to be the people least able to afford the concert tickets. The artists are often totally willing to set aside a chunk of tickets at a much cheaper price, but they need to be able to guarantee that these tickets aren't just purchased by sca…
lower price /psa