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It's definitely not. It's a fundamental shift on how we interact with computers. It's a tractors on farms kind of moment.
I brought data to this discussion. What did you bring?
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Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks
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Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks
#292Not just Amazon, too. It feels like all of big tech (and some smaller firms) have simultaneously gone insane. Imagine if your CEO woke up one day and told the company: "We need to encourage travel spending. Please book as many business trips as you can, and spend as much money as possible. Fly first class to our satellite offices! Take limos instead of Ubers! Eat at fine restaurants! Make sure you are constantly trav…
Look it might seem silly, but the point is to get all our employees to be travel-pilled. They just don't know how great travel is yet.
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#293Lots of people reporting their "I had to use up my tokens, so I burned them on worthless stuff" stories. Incredible thing to do in a climate emergency. Push harder guys, maybe we can hit 3C warming? This reminds me of the story of how the USSR nearly made whales extinct to meet a quota for whale meat that nobody wanted to eat.
> USSR nearly made whales extinct USSR barely accounted for 15% of the world caught amount (with Japan as the leader). > that nobody wanted to eat unsubstantiated.
Thank you for correcting that awfully incorrect factoid.
Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks
#294Not just Amazon, too. It feels like all of big tech (and some smaller firms) have simultaneously gone insane. Imagine if your CEO woke up one day and told the company: "We need to encourage travel spending. Please book as many business trips as you can, and spend as much money as possible. Fly first class to our satellite offices! Take limos instead of Ubers! Eat at fine restaurants! Make sure you are constantly trav…
My dad worked at a company that had their own travel agency (early 90s when you needed a travel agent for reasons that no longer apply), and he was often booked on the more expensive flight because the travel agency made more money. More than once he could have got first class for less on a different flight but company policy didn't allow him to fly first class. We have always been living in bonkers time.
I worked at a tech company in the early 2010s that had its own travel agency.
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only problem with this is that outcome metrics are still jira storypoints. Burning huge number of token while not improving the velocity is going to get you fired.
If we had a way of measuring velocity, we'd already be using that instead of tokens.
We had a way of measuring velocity, but who cares about estimating stories when we could be spinning up more agents? Burn a bunch of tokens and those stories will be DONE before you could even find your planning poker cards!
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#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
If we had a way of measuring velocity, we'd already be using that instead of tokens.
We had a way of measuring velocity, but who cares about estimating stories when we could be spinning up more agents? Burn a bunch of tokens and those stories will be DONE before you could even find your planning poker cards!
I've lived through a bunch of initiatives about improving planning and estimation. None of them turned into a stable process that worked for anyone. I don't know if I can extrapolate from that, but it gives me an inclination that no one really trusts anything that comes out of task estimation. Which would be why we're looking for more objective metrics like token burn rate. No room for argument - tokens are tokens!
Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks
#297Like six months ago we got a presentation from an AWS guy on the AI tooling available and how it fit with our particular use cases. At one point seemingly out of nowhere he pointed out on his screen share "Look at how many tokens I've used this month. I run so much Opus." It was a number that was offensively large. I remember thinking "That's a really odd flex, this crap is so expensive the fact that you use so much…
I notice a lot of Cursor's suggestions are just stuff a linter should auto-fix. But if you hit "tab" it'll claim that as an AI-edited line, LOL. (A lot of the rest of it is stuff I could already have been doing just as fast if I'd ever bothered to learn to use multiple cursors, learned vim navigation, or set up some macros—I never did because my getting-code-on-the-screen speed without those has never been slow enoug…
you don't use vim/emacs for the productivity. It's a lifestyle decision
Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks
#298Like six months ago we got a presentation from an AWS guy on the AI tooling available and how it fit with our particular use cases. At one point seemingly out of nowhere he pointed out on his screen share "Look at how many tokens I've used this month. I run so much Opus." It was a number that was offensively large. I remember thinking "That's a really odd flex, this crap is so expensive the fact that you use so much…
I still don't know how to reconcile these reports with what other people say about GenAI-agentic assisted engineering being the only way of working nowadays, especially in startups. Probably there is no dichotomy going on and it depends on multiple factors, but it seems so weird to see reports that are so different between each other.
> I still don't know how to reconcile these reports
This is work related. So you can't expect everyone to have the same input demands or output expectations.
> Probably there is no dichotomy
It's literally staring you in the face.
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Shit, the government providing infrastructure in response to public demand? Outrageous use of taxes!
Your sarcastic comment mistakes "public demand" for what is actually private sector demand.
Good point, companies should be exempt from taxes since they aren't expected to count or benefit from infrastructure improvements
Re: Amazon workers under pressure to up their AI usage are making up tasks
#300Not just Amazon, too. It feels like all of big tech (and some smaller firms) have simultaneously gone insane. Imagine if your CEO woke up one day and told the company: "We need to encourage travel spending. Please book as many business trips as you can, and spend as much money as possible. Fly first class to our satellite offices! Take limos instead of Ubers! Eat at fine restaurants! Make sure you are constantly trav…
I'm making sure to use the most expensive model possible for the stupidest shit constantly. They asked for it!