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Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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What's the best alternative for Google drive? I also went this route but Samba is a bit annoying sometimes

Syncthing is very nice.

I have nothing but issues with it, mostly because the iOS/Android apps are notoriously bad at syncing the files timely and also because of ridiculous filename restrictions on Android.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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I would love to see someone challenge this as an anti-trust violation. Google is using its market power (as the provider of reCAPTCHA) to actively prevent devices that don’t use Google Play Services from competing effectively.

They're only doing that because the EU currently doesn't want to antagonize US any more with their tech fines. Noticed how there hasn't been any as of recently?

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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At least with an Android i have the option of Graphene, and have access to a terminal, and for now can sideload apps. With apple there's no choices, so I'll continue to take my chances with Android

Possibly... but the extension of this to Android and Apple is going to be the entire internet shuts you out. And everything else will be a giant Dead Internet crawling with bots.

I have to see. As much as I don't like Murena and /e/OS, they seem to have some clout with the EU/EC. Given that they are using microG and also hit by this, they might be able to nudge the EC to act on this.

Also, personally I care less and less. As long as my banks and government apps work, I'll just not use somebody's service if they put up barriers like this.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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It has a zero percent chance of reaching anyone who can do anything about it. You could try handwriting and posting a letter to their CEO. I think that sometimes works. Probably not very often but there are more than zero CEOs who read those letters.

REI is allegedly a co-op, maybe there's a committee or something it could be presented to?

REI Co-op has an Annual Members Meeting in Seattle, where it announces the results of the board of directors election. The 2026 one happened Feb 5. Apparently the presentation is only 8m long, some saying it's pre-recorded and it's near-impossible for members to submit a question that actually gets answered:

https://www.rei.com/newsroom/article/2026-rei-board-of-direc...

https://www.rei.com/newsroom/article/rei-announces-2026-boar...

https://www.reddit.com/r/REI/comments/1qw14k6/rei_hosts_thei...

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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When companies like this exist, what is the point of relying of TPM? Looks like the future is bright for VC backed bots https://doublespeed.ai/

Why is every startup using that same Serif font now, Garamond or whatever. Is it an LLM design phenomenon? Its kinda ruining that font style for me. Also $1,500 a month for 10 "influencers" is wild. This doesn't seem that sophisticated unless they're doing something special to increase trust scores of accounts. They say they have "in house warming algorithm" which honestly doesn't inspire confidence for me. Whats fun…

Reckless Condensed?

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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There really isn't much of an option. Apple's just as bad if not worse.

> Apple's just as bad if not worse. Could you justify that? Because to me it seems like Apple isn't doing anything even like this.

https://httptoolkit.com/blog/apple-private-access-tokens-att...

Also, Apple sells themselves as a privacy company, but often pick (possibly intentionally) insecure defaults. E.g. you might use end-to-end encrypted chats, but by default iCloud backups are not end-to-end encrypted, so law enforcement can just request your backups/chats from Apple. If you are vigilant and enable Advanced Data Protection for E2E iCloud backups, it probably still doesn't matter because the people that you communicate with probably do not have ADP enabled.

Besides that, they are enshittifying in the same way as Google. Ads in Maps, Ads in applications that you get with the OS (Apple Creator Studio ads in Keynote, etc.), Ads in your system settings for Apple Fitness+ (really).

At least Pixel phones and soon some Motorola models have the option of installing GrapheneOS.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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If you need access to both apps from China and websites/apps from outside China, non-Apple devices have been difficult before this, primarily due to push notification infrastructure. This makes it more difficult. But I don’t think it matters given how difficult it was prior to this.

What's wrong with Apple push notifications in China?

"non-Apple", i.e. Android

The problem is that most popular apps for Android outside Chinese app stores rely on Google services (specifically, Firebase) for push notifications.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Given the way Google is going I'm not sure if my next phone will be Android. I am fully aware that I am probably in the minority here. For me the trust is entirely gone.

Motorola + GrapheneOS next year could be an alternative. So far they've been relatively insulated from the changes that have been coming down from Google.

Or if you need it now, Pixel + GrapheneOS. Pixel A-series are really affordable. E.g. the 9A is 350 Euro here, have great device security (Google Titan M2 hardware security processor, CPU that supports MTE, etc.), pretty good cameras/camera processing, etc.

Re: Google broke reCAPTCHA for de-googled Android users

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Stop visiting sites and using services that use reCAPTCHA. Problem solved.

Stop visiting sites and using services that use reCAPTCHA. Problem solved. No. Bigger problem created, since there are innumerable government, health care, and educational web sites that use reCAPTCHA. I'm not going to give up reading the test results from my doctor because of some simplistic ideologue decides that it's "problem solved."

Compliance is what makes all that shit possible. Sadly most people are compliant and made so by gradually increasing their dependency on "commodities" which really are anchors to a shit lake.
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