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Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Yet even with all this information most webpages still insist on showing me the language version of the country who's IP address I have rather than, you know, using the preferred language selection.

It's almost like web devs don't know the concept of traveling outside ones county.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Whether or not the information is accurate isn't really the point. It's that it serves as a way to identify you even without cookies. I looked for better websites, the EFF one[0] is informative. My browser fingerprint was unique among the visitors in the past 45 days. [0] https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

> Whether or not the information is accurate isn't really the point. It's that it serves as a way to identify you even without cookies.

Exactly. A few weeks ago, there was an article about the age limit for social media. And everyone was full of criticism on how it affects privacy. But when there is a post about how browser profile serves de facto as a user identifier, then people are "Of course, what's the problem? We all know that, that's the way it has to be".

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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its ease is also vastly inflated. If it was as simple as this site makes it out to be, companies like fingerprint.com don't exist.

Don't know about easy but their JS lib doing this is quite good: https://github.com/fingerprintjs/fingerprintjs Honestly surprised to see it licensed as MIT now too. It was something less permissive before. They aren't doing anything too crazy, more like being the first ones to be open about it. I couldn't imagine what else companies like Google or Meta or TikTok can extract out of it that no one else can't. Integrat…

This also exists: https://abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs/

TBH, its never anything super exotic (though it helps) but simple stupid basic things like cookies that does 70% of the work here. Also, your IP address at home is _really_stable_.

If I can give you a sticky cookie (cookies, indexdb, localstorage), a half-assed fingerprint, and tie it to your IP-address, and know you're not on a cell-tower; this is probably good enough for most purposes.

Use safari on private relay in private mode.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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One thing is using information about my connection like my IP and a different one is my browser exposing the angle that I'm holding my phone. I should be able to expect some privacy from my device. What if my browser starts sending a picture of my front camera with every request, is that okay?

No, that wouldn't be ok, but if my browser did that, I wouldn't be mad at the website for doing something with the data I sent them. I would be mad at my browser, not the web site.

Right, but when the company (Google) owns both the browser and also one of the biggest advertisement corporations, then that's a big problem

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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I am once again asking privacy advocates to try sounding normal for once. Trying to make a browser accessing your timezone sound nefarious isn't going to convince anyone of anything.

It's the usual terse LLM voice that makes everything sound dramatic. Nails on a chalkboard

I can't stand this tone, it's truly the worst way to write, ever. Rapid successions of sentences 5 to 8 words long, where each must be impactful and profound but only end up sounding incredibly smug and abrasive. Fuck that.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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Huh? The user mwheelz seems to have been [dead]'d in the time this post has been on the front page. If I look at their comments page, those posted more than 46 minutes ago (at the time of writing) are normally visible and the rest are [dead]. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=mwheelz Mods, is there something we should know? Is there maybe a reason to stay away from the linked website?

Huhh?? Oh dear, ok but it's because they ai generated everything to make a poor copy of other websites.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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That's what frames are for. Only reload the frame with the important data in it (total cost, list of products in cart) and point the category links in the page to open in the same frame as the shopping cart. You can even style the frame contents with the main page's stylesheet so it only needs to load a `$41.29` total if that's all that's changed.

No, I did not defile myself that badly by using frames nor layout with tables either. I did layout with CSS. It wasn't just an update to the total. It was a proper modern day UI look (if not so much feel) so that it had a collapsible shopping cart on the side so you could see the items and quantities and link back to the item's page.

If you're smart about the style/display format, this can be done with a frame that only has the necessary markup (ie just the contents of the cart, with links, think a sidebar/pop-up shopping cart embedded in the middle of the page). You can avoid the flash with css page transitions, too. It's not as nice as scripted setup, but if you're on a decent connection (latency) it's about even with other forms of progressive enhancement since you're not loading an entire UI framework. I'm not sure how well this would work for accessibility though, plain old frames aren't used much anymore.

Re: A web page that shows you everything the browser told it without asking

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post #156

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its ease is also vastly inflated. If it was as simple as this site makes it out to be, companies like fingerprint.com don't exist.

Don't know about easy but their JS lib doing this is quite good: https://github.com/fingerprintjs/fingerprintjs Honestly surprised to see it licensed as MIT now too. It was something less permissive before. They aren't doing anything too crazy, more like being the first ones to be open about it. I couldn't imagine what else companies like Google or Meta or TikTok can extract out of it that no one else can't. Integrat…

advertisers often get their own tracking code running on the site, or at least a handshake (tracking pixel) that lets the ad companies track your traversal on nearly every site.
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