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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

GeekyBear wrote: post #277
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #129

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Also: Before, Apple was dependent on Intel (whose "product" is an integrated chip design and the fab to make it). Now they're dependent on TSMC (whose "product" is a fab). I'm... not really sure they've reduced their dependence? If TSMC starts falling behind Intel--which doesn't seem likely, but what happened to Intel didn't seem likely two decades ago--Apple will be stuck.

TSMC does have competitors. Intel is already being evaluated to fab Apple's entry level chips, if they can meet performance, energy efficiency, and production targets.

Sure, but Intel has/had competitors too.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by akmarinov »

stronglikedan wrote: post #273

They say what happened, but they don't say what is the impact for us naive folks. It doesn't look like sensitive data or IP. What's the big deal?

It’s not a big deal, just embarrassing, something that you wouldn’t expect from a tech giant worth trillions.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by GeekyBear »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #291
GeekyBear wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TSMC does have competitors. Intel is already being evaluated to fab Apple's entry level chips, if they can meet performance, energy efficiency, and production targets.

Sure, but Intel has/had competitors too.

Sure, and Apple very successfully competed with Intel when it came to chip design.

With fabs, other companies can still compete, but you absolutely require a partner with deep pockets to place big orders, since the costs have grown exponentially.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by Yajirobe »

gambiting wrote: post #248
stouset wrote: post #233

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I’ll give you a hint: you may very well have replied on this category of device.

...are we going to pretend smartphones didn't exist before iPhone was launched? I think I was on my 3rd one when the iPhone came out and even then it was a luxury toy for the rich, I didn't know anyone who actually had an iPhone for a good few years after they came out. Unless you're implying something else?

your symbian nokias with keyboards don't count

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by curiouscats »

Spooky23 wrote: post #275
curiouscats wrote: post #255

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Good thoughts. The last sentence doesn't make that much sense to me though. An agreement with Apple to be the lead AI partner would likely juice the IPO a great deal. The financial details wouldn't matter much for the IPO (as the initial financial commitments are going to be small but the halo effect would be real - I think it would in the market anyway). I think Anthropic has real commitment to their way of doing th…

It depends on what Apple wants and what Google was willing to give. Google is in many ways the weakest player in the individual-user facing space. It's a weird market and these companies want global domination. TBH, i don't have the knowledge or context to understand how to think in that mode and what the real facts are. I wouldn't put much stock in the deeply held principles of Anthropic (or Apple for that matter).…

I agree that Apple (and probably Anthropic) don't hold to the expectations some have. But I wouldn't say they are "just another company." I care about privacy more than Apple. But I think Apple does more to help privacy than any other huge company (and I can't think of another huge tech business to consumer company that does less to invade privacy, but I would be open to evidence I am wrong on that).

Apple is far from perfect but that doesn't mean they don't have a position (say privacy) that they care about and give a lot of weight to when making decisions. But as a huge company they also have many competing priorities.

Caring about privacy or potential abuses of LLM/AI services does not mean that a huge company is going to perform on those areas the way those that want maximum privacy or... want.

I do also believe Apple's marketing reasons to promote their focus on privacy make sense. And even if they don't do as much as I would want they do make a big difference (on privacy) it seems to me. And I believe long term there is big value to Apple building systems to stop users private data from being abused.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by recursive »

cmckn wrote: post #243
recursive wrote: post #231

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Your experience is valid of course, but I never once have had the inclination to have a conversation with my phone. I'm not sure which of our experiences is more common.

It’s not a conversation like you’d have with a friend, it’s the type of interaction you’d have with a chatbot, just hands-free. To give you an example, I was having coffee the other morning while unloading the dishwasher and asked the speaker if today was a good day to apply weed and feed on my lawn. This was not possible with the old assistant and was useful to me.

It seems like a lot (all?) of these use cases boil down to a dozen or so categorical requests. In this case, "what's today's weather forecast?".

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by gambiting »

Yajirobe wrote: post #295
gambiting wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...are we going to pretend smartphones didn't exist before iPhone was launched? I think I was on my 3rd one when the iPhone came out and even then it was a luxury toy for the rich, I didn't know anyone who actually had an iPhone for a good few years after they came out. Unless you're implying something else?

your symbian nokias with keyboards don't count

...because you said so? I'm assuming you will say Palms also don't count? Blackberries neither? Phones running Windows Mobile weren't really smartphones? Let me guess - nothing that wasn't an iPhone counts?

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Post by BoingBoomTschak »

realusername wrote: post #39
gchamonlive wrote: post #16

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I think it's the same reason why MacOS and iOS degraded a lot in terms of UX the past decade. The focus of Apple shifted towards hardware independence. The 2010s was marked by Intel's lazy product lineup, year after year pumping rehashes of older products, iterating on top of their 14nm lithography with increasingly minor improvements on its architecture until AMD overcame them. In the process, Apple's partnership wi…

I always found that Apple had pretty mediocre software qualify, it's always been a very strong hardware company first and foremost. They have great kernel, drivers and low level engineering but the stack above that has a lot of questionable stuff.

>They have great kernel, drivers and low level engineering but the stack above that has a lot of questionable stuff.

Do they? Is Linus' rant about porting git to OSX now obsolete? At least, unlike MS with ReFS, they managed their HFS+ -> APFS migration.

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Post by mh- »

redwall_hp wrote: post #145
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #73

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"objectively better" is a subjective statement :) My preference, however, is for a voice-control UX just like I get with my Amazon Echo and "classic" Alexa like I have been for the past 10 years I've been using it: I think I can best describe it as a "voice-driven command-line" just like your OS' CLI shell, which makes its interactions predictable, even if it means I need to "know" what commands are valid in a given…

Siri's one job I care about is doing exactly what I want while I'm driving. I need it to check my text messages, take dictation, start phone calls and deal with music. I don't need to have conversations with it, I need deterministic responses to known commands.

Agreed, and I've been waiting for it to do all of those things reliably && consistently since work gave me an iPhone 4S in 2011.

I'm on the iPhone 16 now.

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