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Grok 4.3

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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by bakies »

troupo wrote: post #119
kilroy123 wrote: post #110

People are going to hate on Grok because of Musk. However, I do hope they're successful in making a powerful model. We desperately need more competition. I want cheap subsidized AI plans. I hope Meta finally comes around, too. I want those sweet, sweet billionaire subsidized tokens.

Credit where it's due, Grok is currently the only model that has near-realtime updates from/access to a waterhose of data, and is casually used by regular people all the time. I don't think there's a single thread on Xitter whete people don't delegate some question to grok. (There's a separate conversation of failure modes, and whether it's a good thing, and how much control Elon had when he doesn't like Grok's "woke…

All the major tools can websearch guy

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

1123581321 wrote: post #276
2ndorderthought wrote: post #75

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There are lots of uncensored models out there. I don't think grok is leading in that front. They kind of pick and choose which things they want to support based on elons world views. Elon used to hang out with sex traffickers so of course grok is fine talking about it. Probably even offers strategies for them does free accounting has money laundering strategies etc...

What are the leading uncensored models? How well do they perform for you?

I don't use any but they do exist and there are scientific papers discussing them. I heard about them through r/localllama

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

embedding-shape wrote: post #212
2ndorderthought wrote: post #187

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Please don't validate any of this personally that would be illegal. I think the proportion of people generating images that way is likely very low. Though I am sure it is possible. Here are some links https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/x-blames-users-f... https://9to5mac.com/2026/02/17/eu-also-investigating-as-grok... Concerning.

> Please don't validate any of this personally that would be illegal. Obviously, I assumed we all are familiar with our local laws to not unwittingly commit crimes here :) > I think the proportion of people generating images that way is likely very low So probably a far cry from "holding the world record for the biggest generator of CSAM" given the amount of local alternatives available? Would be my guess at least, b…

I have no idea what people are doing to get it to generate illegal content. I only know there are thousands of cases of it via articles about it. I have not, and will not use grok as a product.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

aembleton wrote: post #285
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #188

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It is really, really genuinely concerning how many people think there are profound measurable differences between these things. Like yeah tonally I guess there are. But with regard to references and information? You’re literally just using three different slot machines and claiming one is hot. I suppose though I shouldn’t be that surprised then since Vegas and every other casino on Earth has been built on duping peop…

> You’re literally just using three different slot machines and claiming one is hot. It's a fair point. I haven't tested many queries across them all and checked their answers, but if I want to ask one of them a question - right now its Grok just because I trust its answers more.

It's not a methodology problem, it's a test-ability problem. LLMs are not deterministic. You can ask the same question to the same LLM five times and you'll likely get at least 3 answers.

Again. Slot machine.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by [deleted] »

naasking wrote: post #226
2ndorderthought wrote: post #173

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I think they key point here is "for law enforcement". That's a little different from "pay me 10 dollars and enjoy the felonies". I still don't feel good about that by the way.

Would you feel good about completely fake CSAM if it actually reduced incidence of child molestation?

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Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by gadders »

vrganj wrote: post #288
gadders wrote: post #272

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Lol. Gender ideology is very much a policy of left wing parties. You may go for the One True Scotsman argument and say it's not proper leftism, and you may be right, but that doesn't stop it being policy.

You think Lenin was into gender issues? You think Lenin wasn't a leftist?

You think Lenin is alive now?

Name a gender-critical left wing party.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by neuronexmachina »

Aurornis wrote: post #283
kardianos wrote: post #265

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Elon has publicly stated that he cares a great deal about safety. He has stated that the only safe models are those which align greatest with truth, that which is in reality. In this, xAI has lived up, as it has proved to hallucinate least (or close to least) in benchmarks. If you read that, quote again, he is saying "how can you quantify safety in a card?"

> If you read that, quote again, he is saying "how can you quantify safety in a card?" Everyone familiar with LLM research understands what is meant by “card”. He was being obtuse to try to dodge the question and simultaneously give performance for his fans.

For model cards in general, I have a suspicion that grok's training includes a fair amount of distillation off their competitors' models. That should be disclosed in a model card, and one of the reasons they likely don't want to release one.

Re: Grok 4.3

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Post by lukewarm707 »

accrual wrote: post #281
tecoholic wrote: post #190

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Seriously though, why is it a model "card", safety "card"? I had to lookup to learn that it comes from HuggingFace's vague definition of "README" in the model's repo. This is such a specific thing that I don't think anyone except a very small population would know - not the users, not the c-suites. I don't like Musk or Grok. But not knowing what's a safety card is not a signal of anything IMO.

> Seriously though, why is it a model "card", safety "card"? My assumption is because "card" has a more formal tone than a README, which is more like a quick "how to use the software" guide. Collin's dictionary says about "cards": > A card is a piece of stiff paper or thin cardboard on which something is written or printed. (1) > A card is a piece of cardboard or plastic, or a small document, which shows information…

maybe it was from soccer cards.

the model gets the yellow card.

if it wants to become skynet it gets a red.

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