I'll probably ship PWAs but hope those are not killed by Google.
Android Developer Verification
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#292> However, our recent analysis found over 90 times more malware from sideloaded sources than on Google Play Google has seemingly never seen an elderly person's phone, where it is completely infected with crap including literal popup ads (that somehow overlay other apps), yet all of it was downloaded from GPlay.
Which analysis, where is the data? Where is the independent peer review to conclude what you see is actually real?
I'm so tired of companies claiming stuff with "we did research, just trust me bro" and providing no source to be scrutinized.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please call it what it is and always has been: I.N.S.T.A.L.L.I.N.G S.O.F.T.W.A.R.E "side load" is like "jay walking' seeks to stigmatize humans being human.
I call it "direct install" personally, implying the play store is the indirect install.
actualy yeah its way more direct than google play store technically
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please call it what it is and always has been: I.N.S.T.A.L.L.I.N.G S.O.F.T.W.A.R.E "side load" is like "jay walking' seeks to stigmatize humans being human.
Please don't try and police my language
Tbh I do not think the idea is to "police" you, I do believe he means to show that "side load apps" is a corporate speech to say "don't do this, but we allow it". However it's literally just installing software.
Let's apply the "side load" apps logic to Desktop applications, imagine you have to pass for an entire process just to install an app you downloaded?
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#295Don't love it but (1) it's addressing a serious problem and I'm not sure what the alternative is and (2) if you all remember the starting place, it was staggeringly, dramatically worse, practically a death sentence for F-Droid and seemingly testing the waters for if they could simply power through and do it despite objection. This is a major course correction that doesn't kill F-Droid. A one time 24 hour hoop to jump…
Is it a serious problem that you can run whatever software you want on your computer? Should we make it so that no one can do that without permission to protect them? I recommend Cory Doctorow's talk on why this is a serious problem for society: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Coming_War_on_General_Com... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg
Could you try to put more of a effort into keeping the specifics in view and not turning the whole conversation into a view from 10,000 ft filled with drive by generalities? You might as well be linking to a Wikipedia entry on 1984.
We have moved away from an existential threat to F-Droid to a speed bump which lets it live. As is often the case, it's a both can be true situation in that I don't like the ratcheting up of restrictions, but think possible without contradiction to note how the change over time has impacted F-Droid compared to prior iterations of the proposed policy.
It disappoints me that people on HN aren't sufficiently in control of their own attention to the point of being able to show up to that conversation, as the fate of F-Droid has been central to this saga if you've been following it over previous HN threads.
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#296> However, our recent analysis found over 90 times more malware from sideloaded sources than on Google Play Google has seemingly never seen an elderly person's phone, where it is completely infected with crap including literal popup ads (that somehow overlay other apps), yet all of it was downloaded from GPlay.
100.00% this take. Google is redefining "malware" to fit their corporate narrative so ads-with-ads-with-tracking is labeled as fine wine. It simply cannot be malware because that truth would decimate their shareholders. Malware by any other definition remains software that disrupts the user's ability to operate the device: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malware https://www.ibm.com/think/topics/malware https://www.clou…
Remember when we had the term "spyware" for a class of malware?
I remember
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#297> our recent analysis found over 90 times more malware from sideloaded sources than on Google Play.
So, what I'm being told is; there's lots of malware on Google Play? Thank goodness for f droid (for now).
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
>suddenly the company app is banned from the app store seemingly without reason. At least a few such stories have appeared on HN over the years. Which is not that unreasonable even. If a person is flagged for making scam apps, them having publishing rights in a reputable place makes taints the reputation of such place. You should be able to appeal of course and the oauth should not be towards google in the first plac…
That seems at odds with how our society is structured. We treat employees as interchangeable cogs. If someone commits a crime they are tried but their family, friends, and coworkers are not. Guilt by association without any act having been committed seems wholly incompatible with both our principles and common practices. It's even more nefarious when it comes to BigTech because you can be blacklisted without having c…
> If someone commits a crime they are tried but their family, friends, and coworkers are not. Guilt by association without any act having been committed seems wholly incompatible with both our principles and common practices.
This is no longer the case, see the example of Hüseyin Dogru, a journalist who faces political EU sanctions (no trial) and now cannot transact with EU citizens or travel. Authorities have now siezed the bank account of his wife and are treating her as if she is sanctioned, even though she is not, so their family is now broke and cannot even pay for food. Because they are not allowed to travel they cannot return to Switzerland.
This kind of blacklisting also comes up in non-sanctioned contexts with de-banking and political de-platforming based on government pressure. The world is headed to a very dark place.
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#299A 'safe' app store would promote and prioritize open source apps compiled on public auditable runners.
Yeah like npm! Don’t think there’s ever been security issues in that.
I download all apps on my phone from the bleeding edge of npm. /s
When npm has supply chain attacks it's still news.
On Google Play Store its actually noteworthy when an app isn't some level of malware loaded with ads and questionable permissions.
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#300> However, our recent analysis found over 90 times more malware from sideloaded sources than on Google Play Google has seemingly never seen an elderly person's phone, where it is completely infected with crap including literal popup ads (that somehow overlay other apps), yet all of it was downloaded from GPlay.
"Confirm the accessibility permissions to get $7 SolitaireBux"