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Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by saidnooneever »

its a bit weird to me ud need to be contributor to their software to work in operations or hardware, but I suppose its ok for tinycompany. in long term its likely better to have domain experts and not bias everything towards the same thing.

the boxes look cool but how good are they really? the cheapest box seems pricey at 12 for a what is essentially a few gaming gpus. i dont see why you couldnt make that like half the price. u could do a PC/server build thats much much faster for way less. size doesnt matter if its more than twice the price i think...

the more expensive box has atleast real processing gpus but afaik also not very popular ones, this one seems maybe more fair priced (there seems a big difference in bang for buck between these???).

the third one suggested looks like a joke.

dont get me wrong, this seems like a really cool idea. But i dont see it taking off as the prices are corporate but the product seems more home use.

maybe in time they will find a better balance, i do respect the fact that the component market now is sour as hell and making good products with stable prices is pretty much i possible.

id love one of these machines someday, maybe when i am less poor, or when they are xD.

(love the styling of everything, this is the most critical i could be from a dumb consumer perspective, which i totally am btw.)

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by dddgghhbbfblk »

aiiizzz wrote: post #289
ivraatiems wrote: post #12

There's some irony in the fact that this website reads as extremely NOT AI-generated, very human in the way it's designed and the tone of its writing. Still, this is a great idea, and one I hope takes off. I think there's a good argument that the future of AI is in locally-trained models for everyone, rather than relying on a big company's own model. One thought: The ability to conveniently get this onto a 240v circu…

Why is hn so obsessed Scott whether something is _written_ by ai or not? Who cares? Judge content, not form. Oh wait, I get it, it's bike shedding.

I've been seeing variations on your comment a lot on HN lately and I find it a rather vapid way of looking at something so intricate as human communication. Among other things, the medium is the message!

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by pegasus »

awesomeMilou wrote: post #264
roarcher wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Filling out an onboarding form is an example of what he's not willing to do, not the only thing he isn't willing to do. > we don't offer any customization to the box or ordering process Every B2B deal of that size that I've ever seen requires at least weeks of meetings between the customer and vendor, in which every detail is at least discussed if not negotiated. That would certainly constitute a "customization" to t…

Then if they succeed, I guess you're going to see a different process for the first time in your life. On a website where we frequently talk about disruptive business models, this whole attitude kinda stinks.

> you're going to see a different process for the first time in your life

That sounds very neutral, but wouldn't this, by removing the human element and flexibility from business transactions, be a further step along a general enshittification trend?

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by pegasus »

kube-system wrote: post #262
roarcher wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter if it's a joke. The non-technical manager or VP making this purchase will not understand it and will expect poor treatment from this vendor, an expectation that will be reinforced by numerous other things on this page. There is no reason to include it at all.

It doesn’t read as if they actually care about broad appeal, given their plain refusal to accommodate traditional procurement processes

So they're only interested in taking on customers who are OK with being treated poorly?

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by nutjob2 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #12

There's some irony in the fact that this website reads as extremely NOT AI-generated, very human in the way it's designed and the tone of its writing. Still, this is a great idea, and one I hope takes off. I think there's a good argument that the future of AI is in locally-trained models for everyone, rather than relying on a big company's own model. One thought: The ability to conveniently get this onto a 240v circu…

3200W at ~240V is ~15A, that's just a regular household socket, at least in Europe. I imagine 240V sockets in the US are at least 15A.

No need for separate circuits, just use a double adapter.

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by ViscountPenguin »

paxys wrote: post #237
nine_k wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would a hedge fund that does not want to trust to a public AI cloud just buy chassis, mobos, GPUs, etc, and build an equivalent themselves? I suspect they value their time differently.

Why do you think a hedge fund can't hire a couple of IT guys? Most of the larger ones have technical operations that would put big tech to shame.

Medium sized hedge funds are a good portion of the market, and only really want to hire just enough tech people to keep the quant pipelines running.

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by nutjob2 »

znpy wrote: post #51
operatingthetan wrote: post #24

The incremental price increases between products is funny. $12,000, $65,000, $10,000,000.

I was more worried by the 600kW power requirement... that's 200 houses at full load (3kw) in southern europe... which likely means 400 houses at half load. the town near my hometown has 650 – 800 houses (according to chatgpt). crazy.

> at full load (3kw)

Do you live in a deprived rural village in a very poor country? Because you can't even run a heater and the oven with 3kW.

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by HWR_14 »

jcgrillo wrote: post #85
trollbridge wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A typical U.S. 240V circuit is actually just two 120V circuits. Fairly trivial to rewire for that.

If you actually use two 120V circuits that way and one breaker flips the other half will send 120V through the load back into the other circuit. So while that circuit's breaker is flipped it is still live . Very bad. Much better to use a 240V breaker that picks up two rails in the panel.

They make connected circuit breakers for this use case, where one tripping automatically trips both.

Re: Tinybox – A powerful computer for deep learning

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Post by rick_dalton »

qubex wrote: post #288
rick_dalton wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That thing is NOT related to tinybox or tinygrad in any way. It is basically copyright infringement. Unless you’re astroturfing here I suggest you get your money back.

Wasn’t astroturfing, I’ll look into it, thanks.

Sorry for even mentioning astroturfing, haha. It’s just because the promotion of the device is based on trying to fool people it was made by tiny corp.
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