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Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by JSR_FDED »

verdverm wrote: post #18
brcmthrowaway wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Claude Code's system prompt have special sauces?

Yes, very much so. I've been able to get Gemini flash to be nearly as good as pro with the CC prompts. 1/10 the price 1/10 the cycle time. I find waiting 30s for the next turn painful now https://github.com/Piebald-AI/claude-code-system-prompts One nice bonus to doing this is that you can remove the guardrail statements that take attention.

Thanks for the link. Very helpful to understanding what’s going on under the hood.

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gerdesj wrote: post #286
tianrking wrote: post #241

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LLMs are sold on the premise of doing cool stuff and reasonably understanding intent and doing it. The man on the Clapham omnibus would not miss-interpret "no" like that. The LLM asked: "Shall I implement [plan]". The response was "no". The LLM then went on to "interpret" what no referred to and got it wrong. As you say, it is amusing but people are wiring these things up to bank accounts and all sorts. I'm looking i…

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Post by le-mark »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #132
singron wrote: post #126

This is very funny. I can see how this isn't in the training set though. 1. If you wanted it to do something different, you would say "no, do XYZ instead". 2. If you really wanted it to do nothing, you would just not reply at all. It reminds me of the Shell Game podcast when the agents don't know how to end a conversation and just keep talking to each other.

> If you really wanted it to do nothing, you would just not reply at all. no

This the way I interpret it and didn’t realize until reading this oddly.

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Post by ianbutler »

evolighting wrote: post #276
tekacs wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It kinda... does? The problem is that folks have been flailing on the right UX for this. This is what build vs. plan mode _does_ in OpenCode. OpenAI has taken a different approach in Codex, where Plan mode can perform any actions (it just has an extra plan tool), but in OC in plan mode, IIRC write operations are turned off. The screenshot shows that the experience had just flipped from Plan to Build mode, which is wh…

Does Codex actually have a Plan Mode, or is there a mode switch I'm missing? I find myself having to manually tell it to 'make a plan' every time. and if it has directory permissions, sometimes it just skips the confirmation step and starts executing as soon as it thinks the plan is ready.

cmd-shift-p (at least in vscode)

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Post by yesitcan »

recursivegirth wrote: post #36
yfw wrote: post #2

Seems like they skipped training of the me too movement

Fundamental flaw with LLMs. It's not that they aren't trained on the concept, it's just that in any given situation they can apply a greater bias to the antithesis of any subject. Of course, that's assuming the counter argument also exists in the training corpus. I've always wondered what these flagship AI companies are doing behind the scenes to setup guardrails. Golden Gate Claude[1] was a really interesting... I h…

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Post by chrysoprace »

joegibbs wrote: post #272
tianrking wrote: post #241

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Claude Code has added too much of this and it's got me using --dangerously-skip-permissions all the time. Previously it was fine but now it needs to get permission each time to perform finds, do anything if the path contains a \ (which any folder with a space in it does on Windows), do compound git commands (even if they're just read-only). Sometimes it asks for permission to read folders WITHIN the working directory…

To be fair, read-only commands can still read sensitive files and keys, and exfiltrate them via prompt injection.

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Post by chrysoprace »

inerte wrote: post #144

Codex has always been better at following agents.md and prompts more, but I would say in the last 3 months both Claude Code got worse (freestyling like we see here) and Codex got EVEN more strict. 80% of the time I ask Claude Code a question, it kinda assumes I am asking because I disagree with something it said, then acts on a supposition. I've resorted to append things like "THIS IS JUST A QUESTION. DO NOT EDIT COD…

Maybe I should give Codex a go, because sometimes I just want to ask a question (Claude) and not have it scan my entire working directory and chew up 55k tokens.

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Post by winterqt »

joegibbs wrote: post #272
tianrking wrote: post #241

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Claude Code has added too much of this and it's got me using --dangerously-skip-permissions all the time. Previously it was fine but now it needs to get permission each time to perform finds, do anything if the path contains a \ (which any folder with a space in it does on Windows), do compound git commands (even if they're just read-only). Sometimes it asks for permission to read folders WITHIN the working directory…

In my limited time using it, I’ve never seen it ask for permission to read files from within the working directory, what cases have you run into where it does? Was it trying to run a read-only shell command or something?

Re: Shall I implement it? No

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Post by deaux »

dostick wrote: post #213

Its gotten so bad that Claude will pretend in 10 of 10 cases that task is done/on screenshot bug is fixed, it will even output screenshot in chat, and you can see the bug is not fixed pretty clear there. I consulted Claude chat and it admitted this as a major problem with Claude these days, and suggested that I should ask what are the coordinates of UI controls are on screenshot thus forcing it to look. So I did that…

> I consulted Claude chat and it admitted this as a major problem with Claude these days, and suggested that I should ask what are the coordinates of UI controls are on screenshot thus forcing it to look

If 3 years into LLMs even HNers still don't understand that the response they give to this kind of question is completely meaningless, the average person really doesn't stand a chance.

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