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A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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Post by dlev_pika »

ericb wrote: post #224
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they pass laws to regulate things they have zero clue about While you are correct with this statement in this context, I would say it applies to most things in government in general. The vast majority of lawmakers have zero experience solving any real world problems and are content spending everyone else's money to play pretend at doing so. The reality is, most government "solutions" cause more problems than they s…

I see Massachusetts as sort of the non-insane liberal counterpoint to California. Things work here and nobody seems to be passing the "oops my unintended side effects and clueless regulations messed things up horribly." Or, if they do, it is at something like 1/10th the level. We didn't start warning label spam everywhere. We don't have weird propositions that are causing run-away housing prices. There aren't bar cod…

I like MA, but you realize the challenges are vastly different, right?

The sheer size, economic volume and cultural diversity of CA presents a pretty unique set of issues.

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Post by lacoolj »

Feels like they're trying to implement a new wide-reaching protocol/spec by requiring it by law first, then expecting someone to magically develop something, and god forbid it's a different standard than anyone else's.

By next January there will be 30 different methods of age input signalling between OS and application. And then by 2030 we might have the top 3 adopted as established defacto standards.

somewhat related-ish https://xkcd.com/927/ :)

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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Post by Bender »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #72
982307932084 wrote: post #27

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I'm thinking that I should grab a current Linux distro image while I can...

A new California law says all operating systems, including Linux, need to have some form of age verification at account setup

Curious how they plan to do this. Maybe digital rights management tied to TPM. If so it will take 3 ... 2 ... 1 .... cracked ... spoofed. DVD's were cracked with Perl. Curious what language this will be cracked in.

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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Post by Bender »

Feel free to call me paranoid for seeing patterns where there are none but this to me looks like just one phase of a preparation for a very large event entirely unrelated to every age verification reason given thus far. I won't guess any further. "I'm a good boy."

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Post by wredcoll »

bitwize wrote: post #256
zeta0134 wrote: post #147

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I'm trying to understand how this is even a bad thing. Where is the privacy invading verification? Surely a given OS can implement the API response however it wants? If you're root, tell me your age. If you're not, (a child account), the admin (their parent) sets the age. Seems fine?

Y'all are like Dilbert with the shock collar on, "It's not so bad." It's requiring all operating systems, apps, and online services to add age checks. It adds friction to the process of developing stuff. If there's something you do not want to do especially in California of all Goddamn places (swear to God, Wozniak would be spinning in his grave if he had one) it's add friction to the software development process wit…

Like, literally none of those sentences are accurate. It's kinda impressive.

I do wonder who benefits from all the propaganda causing this kind of kneejerk reaction though.

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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Post by MangoCoffee »

It's funny that more and more Chinese style laws are being passed in the West.

What's next? Chinese style social credit? You’ll need 800 points to run a sudo command?

Free society? Mass surveillance. The West is becoming more of a nanny state like China every year.

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Post by sigio »

idle_zealot wrote: post #236
bawolff wrote: post #195

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All the better to do targeted advertisments and underdeveloped minds!

This is exactly the sort of infrastructure that would make it super easy to pass a law banning tracking and advertising to minors. Once every platform can trivially detect when they should turn off the ads there's no reasonable counter-argument about privacy or feasibility.

Fine by me... instantly setting my age to whatever it is that disallows all ads ;)

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Post by wredcoll »

asyx wrote: post #118
leptons wrote: post #95

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As a startup owner, if there has to be age verification, then I'm all for doing that at the OS level. As a human with privacy concerns, I'll continue using Linux.

I think doing this on an OS level might be the most privacy focused way to do this but the issue is that this is not going to be the way this is implemented. Like, I’m not American and in Germany we have ID cards that actually have your age encoded on an NFC chip in the card and an ID number that encodes the age. Like, age is part of the ID number and checksum. You could totally do all of this age verification offlin…

> Well the obvious answer is don’t let your kids just use a computer without supervision

have you literally ever met a kid?

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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Post by [deleted] »

nlitsme wrote: post #249

I will start making a list for linux then. rm - ok for all ages. grep - 18+, you can obviously use this to search for porn. find - 18+, see grep. reboot - ok for all ages. echo - ok for all ages. cat - 18+, prints the porn you found directly to your terminal. sudo - 18+, obviously. kill - ok for all ages. This is the US, right. ps - 18+, no peeping at other processes.

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